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  • RodentRodent    7,446 posts
    Does anyone remember Pablo's Pulse? From memory, it was beaten in a maiden at Gosford and next start ran in the Warwick Stakes Group 2 at WFA. It won at 500-1! The year was 1987 and luckily for its connections, "discretion" wasn't used to keep him out. Also, Plus Vite won the notorious flag start Missile Stakes Group 3 at WFA at huge odds in 1984 on debut!
  • StingerStinger    292 posts
    said:

    Does anyone remember Pablo's Pulse? From memory, it was beaten in a maiden at Gosford and next start ran in the Warwick Stakes Group 2 at WFA. It won at 500-1! The year was 1987 and luckily for its connections, "discretion" wasn't used to keep him out. Also, Plus Vite won the notorious flag start Missile Stakes Group 3 at WFA at huge odds in 1984 on debut!

    There have been plenty of class 1 and 2 even maidens go around in Perth Cups
  • MightAndPowerMightAndPower    4,148 posts
    said:

    Does anyone remember Pablo's Pulse? From memory, it was beaten in a maiden at Gosford and next start ran in the Warwick Stakes Group 2 at WFA. It won at 500-1! The year was 1987 and luckily for its connections, "discretion" wasn't used to keep him out. Also, Plus Vite won the notorious flag start Missile Stakes Group 3 at WFA at huge odds in 1984 on debut!


    mate i was at the track that day!! and on targlish so i was wishing discretion had of been applied then LOL .
  • ChrisChris    5,697 posts
    said:

    Does anyone remember Pablo's Pulse? From memory, it was beaten in a maiden at Gosford and next start ran in the Warwick Stakes Group 2 at WFA. It won at 500-1! The year was 1987 and luckily for its connections, "discretion" wasn't used to keep him out. Also, Plus Vite won the notorious flag start Missile Stakes Group 3 at WFA at huge odds in 1984 on debut!

    Pablo's backed that up running second the following start in a Group 2, but could never win another race!
  • RodentRodent    7,446 posts
    You old farts have good memories. Targlish raced in the pink and black quarters of Hyperion Thoroughbreds and was only average until.........
    My question is, what turned things around for Targlish and made him improve markedly into a genuine WFA horse?
  • BlakeBlake    8,176 posts
    Westerly Breeze not without a hope saturday.

    And then there was last years chipping norton stakes

    with he's not pie eater, bay princess and that other goat they let run. pie eater knocks off dwar and mentality. i think the other 2 have won 1 race between them.

    Expertform this week have removed their free horse search and race history from their site. Upsetting. Ozeform is free to join i think they still have it
  • PhilbyPhilby    257 posts
    Hawkes trained a maiden winner that won a group 1 at his next run.

    Discretional ballotting always lead to this same arguement. You dammed if you do let them run and dammed if dont let them run.

    give the committees of each major group 1 race a wild card which allows the provision of two invites, would like to see all other states adopt this too.

    looking at westerly breeze too blake, if El Pres is 100% hard not to make a case to say he wont be winning again.
  • careycarey    6,424 posts
    http://www.perthracing.com.au/news.aspx?ContentID=1388

    after reading this, then the only thing i can presume is that hunter has veto rights.
    if so, then i think he has far too much power, and imo is abusing it.
    i would back a half decent trainer to have far more knowledge of his/her horse and its capabilities that he would.

    grey monarch last week could not win the 3yo g4 which in reality was scaled weaker than a normal 3yo hcp.
    that gets in, along with midtime, but not lambton castle.
    certainly hope it comes back to bite him on the arse.
    if he is not protecting the status of the race, then what the hell is he doing?
    have him and lyndsey smith got history?


    still don't understand why he gets the decision in the first place, rather than the club that puts the race on.
  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    I am not a trainer so I dont have to know this but...........

    can anyone tell me where u find out the qualifying conditions for our feature races????

    Lindsay Smith obviously didn't know them and I wonder how many other trainers did not know?? Obviously Trish Roberts didn't when nominating Mr President in the Lee Steere either.

    Complete farce IMO - I hope the Turf Club refunded the acceptance fee.
  • VoodooVoodoo    1,361 posts
    I have yet to hear a genuinely reasonable reason for Mr Hunter to deny Lambton Castle a start.
    From what I can gather the trainer was informed at acceptance time that, in Mr Hunters view the horse hasn't the ability to compete in the race.
    My question is....Why did it take to acceptance time for Mr Hunter to advise the trainer that the horse was not good enough to start?
    Surely at 12 noon,November 13 when entries closed.....Mr Hunter could have rang connections advising them of his opinion......
    So now what do the owner/s and trainer of Smooth Racer do....obviously Mr Hunter has to inform them that a Perth Cup start is out of the question.With only a Pinjarra 1400mtr Mdn win it cant realistically be given a start in the states premier staying race.......or can it ?
    I believe Mr Hunter has set a very risky precedent which is only going to cause anguish for owners and trainers in the future.


    Cheers
  • petersstablepetersstable    62 posts
    Does anyone know if P. Hall had the choice between Royal Lott and Lia Ora Miss in the Kingston Town? Interesting choice if he did.
  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    Watch a replay of Kia Ora Miss last start - doesnt surprise me at all.
  • petersstablepetersstable    62 posts
    Whilst Kia Ora Miss may have been a good run, it was behind Dress Suit and Upgrade - I wouldn't have thought that form was good enough for this.

    Royal Lott handles weight and the step up to 1800m is what he has been looking for. Good place chance imo.

    Just an interesting choice I thought.
  • darkshinesdarkshines    2,837 posts
    Both have got no hope IMHO. Royal Lott is only good fresh (even though hit line hard in Railway), and Kia Ora Miss is only good when handed races on a platter. Asked to do a little bit of work she's average.
  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    said:

    Both have got no hope IMHO. Royal Lott is only good fresh (even though hit line hard in Railway), and Kia Ora Miss is only good when handed races on a platter. Asked to do a little bit of work she's average.

    Did a stack of work last start and stuck on good for 3rd - not suited this race but later on I will be backing her. :wink:
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