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West Australian Racing
dungydungy    9,278 posts
edited November -1 West Australian Racing
I wake to read this morning that FRK is pushing ahead to the WFA KT this coming weekend and Pontiff booked to ride ,Brad Rawiller couldnt get of quick enough to ride Niconero and Willie booked for El Danna ????? Why bother he beat Hadblekorka and Danny Beau home for 3rd in a photo i thought his run was just o.k still beaten a fair way from the REAL CHAMPIONS [ i love how in the Sunday times they write LOCAL CHAMPION MARASCO RAN 3RD ] that does my head in he aint no champion just a bloody good horse as far as im concerned he hasnt won a gr-1 so tell me what other state labels there n on gr-1 winners CHAMPIONS ???? a joke IMO-
FRK is clutching at Straws AGAIN with the IMPOSTER he wont run in the 1st 10 over 1800m he didnt hit the line overly well in the Railway he and Niconero took of together and Niconero beat him home by 4L cant possibly see how he is going to turn it around ,the weight differance in the KT from the Railway is only a 1.5k not enough , for the record Niconero to beat Gilded Venom
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  • kerrinkerrin    342 posts
    Niconero for me, but you can never question F. Kersley's ways. If Marasco wasn't hanging down the straight, last Saturday, he would of got a bit closer. Still, he ran a very quick last 600m. The first two were a class above over the distance. The WFA will only benefit him.
    I tipped Gilded Venom in Practical Punting, but I'm jumping ship to get on Niconero. I reckon, if we didn't have the E.I. crisis last year, he could be going for the threepeat.
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  • BlakeBlake    8,176 posts
    niconero for me aswell.
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  • darkshinesdarkshines    2,837 posts
    Niconero's the best value I reckon I've ever seen in a G1.

    For me the run of Marasco on sat proved it, Niconero was pulling away from him in the Railway and was clearly lengths better, and Marasco ran a cracker IMHO on the weekend when the race wasn't run to suit at all (maybe Jags read some of the comments on the forum re Surprise Impact??).

    I'm already on at the $6 and now at the $5. If I get better on the day not to worry as I'll just have more on. :lol:
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  • kerrinkerrin    342 posts
    Personally, I don't think he'll show value below 4/1. You have to remember, he's only won the once since the Fruit and Veg. I think he'll be around 9/2 to 5/1 on race day.
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  • darkshinesdarkshines    2,837 posts
    Fair enough kerrin, but . . .

    In the races he's contested since that day that he's suited to (namely Emirates, Epsom, George Main, Futurity & CF Orr), he's only failed once in the Epsom which was bottomless.

    Was 2nd best run of the race in the Emirates, good in the George Main, won the Futurity and beaten a lip in the Orr. In the other races he's been in he's probably had excuses (unfit, high weight or in Dubai). Any of his performances in the races i listed above are good enough to comfortably win a F&V. In short - even though he hasn't won he's not exactly out of form.

    He's without doubt the only WFA miler in the field. Couple that with the fact based on my methods he was the run of the race in the Railway by lengths, I'm pretty damn confident about the old guy - turns up in the same shape he was on Railway day he wins. WFA 1800m at Ascot fits into that bracket of suitable races.
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  • kerrinkerrin    342 posts
    Darkness, totally agree with you, but I'm not taking any shorter that $5.00. This race has Gilded Venom, (this boy could be something), Annekov and Sniper's Bullet, so it's no easy task.
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  • LuckyLongshotsLuckyLongshots    4,270 posts
    I'd be giving him a week off and heading to the WFA Scahill - sure he probably won't win (pretty sure TT is staying for it) but he was coming home well in the Winterbottom and the 1400m is his pet distance!

    3 tough runs in 14 days - I'd be taking the easier route and the more suited distance, but as everyone says FRK can do amzing things, so we'll just have to see!
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  • BlakeBlake    8,176 posts
    heard on sydney radio this morning that gilded venom will be transferred to another trainer for his eastern states campaign due to steve not being able to leave home with the stud etc and his son needing constant care. truly a crying shame. seems like a really lovely bloke who has jagged a good one.

    wonder who will get the horse? personally i'd like to see another perth trainer or a mayfield-smith type trainer get him not a hayes or freedman as he'd just be another number.

    if the owners want to target a doncaster or races in sydney then G.A.Ryan has plenty of room :wink: :wink: throwing it out there!
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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    Im interested to see if Grand Nirvana runs - will be suited more at WFA and hopefully draws a better barrier
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  • DarrahDarrah    2,933 posts
    Blake the same connections & trainer had another good one in the early 90's Perfect Answer winner of six group & listed races - G3 Strickland G3 Belmont Guineas & I think won a country cup campaigning in Victoria. Worth a call mate nice people live in Dalyellup just down the road.
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  • BlakeBlake    8,176 posts
    old man would never ring up and chase a horse. just not in his nature. reckon it cost him count chivas mid 90's. paper reports at the time were it was between him and freedman and freedy rang up and did the sell and old man took the approach of "if they really want me to train it they'll ring me". freedman got the horse and the rest is history. also probably the fact that he had won 2 melbounre cups already and the horse was a 2 miler helped the sell.
    nothings changed he still wouldn't do it.
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  • tonytony    2,436 posts
    said:

    Im interested to see if Grand Nirvana runs - will be suited more at WFA and hopefully draws a better barrier

    FRK said on Saturday he will be running
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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    edited December 2008
    Final Field

    No. Horse Bl St Br Wgt Rtg Rider Trainer
    1 RAILINGS 0 59 NICHOLAS RYAN MICHAEL MORONEY
    2 NICONERO 0 59 DAVID HAYES
    3 MARASCO 0 59 PAUL HARVEY FRED KERSLEY
    4 SNIPER'S BULLET * 0 59 JIM CASSIDY TRACEY BARTLEY
    5 GILDED VENOM 0 59 PATRICK CARBERY STEVE WALLACE
    6 THE FUZZ(NZ) * 0 59 DAVID HAYES
    7 HARTLEYS DREAM 0 59 TROY TURNER PETER GIADRESCO
    8 ANNENKOV(IRE) 0 59 LUKE NOLEN PETER MOODY
    9 ACTION PAK B 0 59 SHAUN O'DONNELL JUSTINE ERKELENS
    10 MIKALDICO 0 59 TOBY RONEY
    11 WEST RIVER CHARLEY 0 59 REBECCA NAIRN
    12 MAJESTICAL(NZ) 0 59 WAYNE HOKAI MATTHEW ENRIGHT
    13 MISSION CRITICAL * 0 58.5 MICHAEL MORONEY
    14 FAMOUS ROMAN * 0 58.5 KEN WILLIAMSON
    15 EL DAANA 0 56.5 DAVID HAYES
    16 GRAND NIRVANA 0 52 PETER KNUCKEY FRED KERSLEY

    8 Interstate Runners / 8 Locals
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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    Poll also added
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  • ChrisChris    5,697 posts
    Poor Railings... here we go again. I see they finally retired Grand Zulu the other day, pity he can't join him
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  • BlakeBlake    8,176 posts
    yeah the poor bugger. not how a caulfield cup winner should end up. travelling companion for mission critical i'd say. who is aimed for the cup. noms close for cup tomorrow.
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  • and_they're_racingand_they're_racing    22 posts
    said:

    Niconero for me, but you can never question F. Kersley's ways. If Marasco wasn't hanging down the straight, last Saturday, he would of got a bit closer. Still, he ran a very quick last 600m. The first two were a class above over the distance. The WFA will only benefit him.
    I tipped Gilded Venom in Practical Punting, but I'm jumping ship to get on Niconero. I reckon, if we didn't have the E.I. crisis last year, he could be going for the threepeat.

    mabye frk and n duncun should give the big M to dodger (p dyson) raced much better and beat apache cat while in his care ?
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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    Is Railings here already Della ?
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  • tonytony    2,436 posts
    Mission Critical and Railings planned to fly over tomorrow.
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  • and_they're_racingand_they're_racing    22 posts
    said:

    yeah the poor bugger. not how a caulfield cup winner should end up. travelling companion for mission critical i'd say. who is aimed for the cup. noms close for cup tomorrow.

    since dad trains most john thompson horses maybe he should have a word in jthompsons ear about railings
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  • BlakeBlake    8,176 posts
    thompson doesn't own railings. similar colours but not same.
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  • and_they're_racingand_they're_racing    22 posts
    said:

    thompson doesn't own railings. similar colours but not sasme.

    sorry then any idea who does :roll: :roll:
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  • BlakeBlake    8,176 posts
    got a free pair of steve madden's off pisty a few years ago.the year the horse won the caulfield cup. olive snakeskin they were :shock: . appreciative of the gesture but had to palm them off to a mate who's a fair bit lairier than me i couldn't wear them.
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  • dungydungy    9,278 posts
    Blake wasnt John Thompson the onwer of ??? Diatribe ,his colours are all black with sliver fern white cap is that right ???
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  • darkshinesdarkshines    2,837 posts
    Anyone got the new market??
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  • darkshinesdarkshines    2,837 posts
    Lahar as well? Tommifrancs early in the peice?
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  • tonytony    2,436 posts
    Latest TAB Sportsbet Market

    AACTION PAK 39951 101.00 26.00
    ANNENKOV 39954 9.00 3.00
    EL DAANA 39961 18.00 5.25
    FAMOUS ROMAN 39962 21.00 6.00
    GILDED VENOM 39963 5.00 2.00
    GRAND NIRVANA 39964 9.00 3.00
    HARTLEYS DREAM 39967 101.00 26.00
    MAJESTICAL 39970 18.00 5.25
    MARASCO 39971 9.00 3.00
    MIKALDICO 39973 61.00 16.00
    MISSION CRITICAL 39974 23.00 6.50
    NICONERO 39976 5.00 2.00
    RAILINGS 39982 61.00 16.00
    SNIPERS BULLET 39989 6.50 2.37
    THE FUZZ 39993 15.00 4.50
    WEST RIVER CHARLEY 39995 61.00 16.00
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  • BlakeBlake    8,176 posts
    he still owns tommifrancs. lahar, conair, blackmailer,greenmailer,flushing meadows, erogenous, danyon, ilze, passmore, dyslexia just to name a few.
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  • and_they're_racingand_they're_racing    22 posts
    said:

    said:

    Blake wasnt John Thompson the onwer of ??? Diatribe ,his colours are all black with sliver fern white cap is that right ???

    Yes thats correct.[/quote also sold few to perth transcribe most recent going ok might add
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  • rompzrompz    206 posts
    great race this will be , far out marasco gotta be a freak to win it wont be backing it with my hard earned but would like to see it win , gilded venom great chance , niconero great run and should be peaking for this top three pick for sure , grand nirvana far out might be in this with a chance if the hard run lat time dont take its toll on him but tough and im not sure who ill back til raceday
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