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Karrakatta Plate

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TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
edited November -1 West Australian Racing
Who are the most likely candidates for the Karrakatta this year.

Miss Solis is obviously the most likely fave.

I think we saw a couple of contenders on Saturday in The Danehill Rose and Profound Effect, possibly even Culprit if he can improve a bit.

Darlington Abbey, Vonlenska, Jestpatim and Single Spice will no doubt head that way, coming out of the Magic Millions.

Then you have Looking Ahead, but that form looks a long way behind those mentioned above.

Fuddle Dee Duddle and Playhouse Theatre. The latter pushed Miss Solis right to the line in their trial today.

Anything else to come out of the woodwork?
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  • darkshinesdarkshines    2,837 posts
    I think the MM (and all other form for that matter) might be a shade below Miss Solis.
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  • H-BOMBERH-BOMBER    10,567 posts
    Playhouse theatre was a great trial today, pushed Miss Solis and never gave it in.
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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,486 posts
    single spice was a run and a half in the mm.
    one more run and then bingo!
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  • ablesonableson    27 posts
    think you mean spice again , not being smart but single spice is the older sister
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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,486 posts
    :oops:
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  • ChrisChris    5,734 posts
    I think Spice Again will be a good show, plenty of heart
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  • TheFunksterTheFunkster    3,840 posts
    Only 2 from the MM are any chance. The 2 that defied the massive leader and near rail bias that day.
    Miss Solis clearly the best of the ones seen so far from Aquanita, but that's not to say she is their best chance.
    Haven't seen anything else that's raced to worry about.
    The Supremacy will sort the contenders from the pretenders 8)
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  • hollda09hollda09    225 posts
    miss solis just wins!
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  • twouptwoup    3 posts
    miss solis for me as well with luke's luck as a smokey
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  • TheFunksterTheFunkster    3,840 posts
    said:

    miss solis just wins!

    Want to take evens? :wink:
    5 1/2 weeks to go, a lot of water to flow under the bridge. Being 2yo's, half the horses mentioned won't even make it to the race and several trainers would be holding back there best chances, trying to time there run so the KP is their 2nd or 3rd run.
    Chances are a few good debutants will pop up in the Supremacy, Perth or Gimcrack Stakes.
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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    check out the trial:

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  • TheFunksterTheFunkster    3,840 posts
    said:

    check out the trial:

    2nd horse PH not without a chance either
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  • darkshinesdarkshines    2,837 posts
    said:

    said:

    miss solis just wins!

    Want to take evens? :wink:
    5 1/2 weeks to go, a lot of water to flow under the bridge. Being 2yo's, half the horses mentioned won't even make it to the race and several trainers would be holding back there best chances, trying to time there run so the KP is their 2nd or 3rd run.
    Chances are a few good debutants will pop up in the Supremacy, Perth or Gimcrack Stakes.
    Gotta disagree with pretty much all of that. To find a winner that fits that profile you've stated you'd have to go way back to Confront; every other winner had started (and in most cases multiple starts) 2 months out. Placegetters ditto, lately the only runners in that bracket to do anything were Rebel Call, Friday's Girl and Grand Nirvana.

    5 of the last 7 been won by the 'dominant' 2yo early (pre-christmas) - cash in the bank (no worries about getting in), let up and then back. The only two that weren't - Roman Time (slow learner that raced right through and improved with racing) and Brava Fortune (there was no dominant early 2yo that year).

    Miss Solis certainly fits the bill. It's got miles on Spice Again, and it was only marginally lesser run than the eyecatchers in the MM. Plus it has a pretty decent trainer too.
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  • TheFunksterTheFunkster    3,840 posts
    said:

    said:

    said:

    miss solis just wins!

    Want to take evens? :wink:
    5 1/2 weeks to go, a lot of water to flow under the bridge. Being 2yo's, half the horses mentioned won't even make it to the race and several trainers would be holding back there best chances, trying to time there run so the KP is their 2nd or 3rd run.
    Chances are a few good debutants will pop up in the Supremacy, Perth or Gimcrack Stakes.
    Gotta disagree with pretty much all of that. To find a winner that fits that profile you've stated you'd have to go way back to Confront; every other winner had started (and in most cases multiple starts) 2 months out. Placegetters ditto, lately the only runners in that bracket to do anything were Rebel Call, Friday's Girl and Grand Nirvana.

    5 of the last 7 been won by the 'dominant' 2yo early (pre-christmas) - cash in the bank (no worries about getting in), let up and then back. The only two that weren't - Roman Time (slow learner that raced right through and improved with racing) and Brava Fortune (there was no dominant early 2yo that year).

    Miss Solis certainly fits the bill. It's got miles on Spice Again, and it was only marginally lesser run than the eyecatchers in the MM. Plus it has a pretty decent trainer too.
    So you want evens? :lol:
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  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts
    said:

    5 of the last 7 been won by the 'dominant' 2yo early (pre-christmas) - cash in the bank (no worries about getting in), let up and then back. The only two that weren't - Roman Time (slow learner that raced right through and improved with racing) and Brava Fortune (there was no dominant early 2yo that year).

    And Roman Time was just lucky Universal Ruler went shinny

    Hence - same can happen to any of these (Miss S incl)
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  • FoolsGoldFoolsGold    148 posts
    PT was a super trial. Worth remembering though that it won a race on Jan 7. So even after a 10 day spell and then back into the system, there would have been a fair amount of residual fitness. Miss Solis on the other hand would have really needed the hit out after last racing on the 8th October. Also races in blinkers i believe and I'm pretty sure Ryan Martin weighs a fair bit more than S Meeres. As for shin soreness, agree that all 2 year olds are on a knife's edge but surely Solis is a little less vulnerable second time in after negotiating 2 trials and 2 starts in October and from all reports going out to the paddock with no issues? I'm obviously a fan of Miss Solis but have a healthy respect for PT as well.
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  • TheFunksterTheFunkster    3,840 posts
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    PT was a super trial. Worth remembering though that it won a race on Jan 7. So even after a 10 day spell and then back into the system, there would have been a fair amount of residual fitness. Miss Solis on the other hand would have really needed the hit out after last racing on the 8th October. Also races in blinkers i believe and I'm pretty sure Ryan Martin weighs a fair bit more than S Meeres. As for shin soreness, agree that all 2 year olds are on a knife's edge but surely Solis is a little less vulnerable second time in after negotiating 2 trials and 2 starts in October and from all reports going out to the paddock with no issues? I'm obviously a fan of Miss Solis but have a healthy respect for PT as well.

    A fair assessment.
    But nobody hss taken my even money offer up yet... :P
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  • dungydungy    9,278 posts
    said:

    said:

    PT was a super trial. Worth remembering though that it won a race on Jan 7. So even after a 10 day spell and then back into the system, there would have been a fair amount of residual fitness. Miss Solis on the other hand would have really needed the hit out after last racing on the 8th October. Also races in blinkers i believe and I'm pretty sure Ryan Martin weighs a fair bit more than S Meeres. As for shin soreness, agree that all 2 year olds are on a knife's edge but surely Solis is a little less vulnerable second time in after negotiating 2 trials and 2 starts in October and from all reports going out to the paddock with no issues? I'm obviously a fan of Miss Solis but have a healthy respect for PT as well.

    A fair assessment.
    But nobody hss taken my even money offer up yet... :P
    I wouldnt take evens on a baby most days let alone 6 weeks out thats silly punting full stop i like D macs 2 and the Miller horse Miss Solis she looks bomb proof only going shinny will be the only thing that beats her
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  • dungydungy    9,278 posts
    Also Harrisons horse Jestaptin that was a run and a half in the MM hit the line real good
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  • Raff_2000Raff_2000    802 posts
    Is it worth throwing Miami Horror into the mix? Obviously he was below his best on Saturday but he may well have suffered from an abnormality that we are yet to be advised of :?:
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  • TheFunksterTheFunkster    3,840 posts
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    Is it worth throwing Miami Horror into the mix? Obviously he was below his best on Saturday but he may well have suffered from an abnormality that we are yet to be advised of :?:

    I wouldn't think so. Sectional times haven't been that flash imo
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  • DownbythepalmsDownbythepalms    381 posts
    Agree Dungy big run, is nommed for saturday drawn the carpark but looks real nice type
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  • TheFunksterTheFunkster    3,840 posts
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    Agree Dungy big run, is nommed for saturday drawn the carpark but looks real nice type

    Drew 16 but into 10 now with 8 not accepting
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  • DownbythepalmsDownbythepalms    381 posts
    Does anyone know when a fixed odds market comes out for this race
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  • TheFunksterTheFunkster    3,840 posts
    said:

    Does anyone know when a fixed odds market comes out for this race

    Friday arvo
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  • dungydungy    9,278 posts
    said:

    Also Harrisons horse Jestaptin that was a run and a half in the MM hit the line real good

    Real keen on this bloke his win Saturday was full of merit ,Jestapatim ,Miss Solis,Scandal Keepers win last Wens was outstanding sat 3 deep no cover first race start and then dropped them at the furlong and D Macs 2 also think the KK winner will come from Saturdays race cracker of a race
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  • RIORIO    14,902 posts
    Jestpatim or Darlington Abbey for me..both had runs and now both having a bit of a break before the race.

    Miss S and PT have a chance to show that they have held their form this Saturday...My opinion may change depending on how they perform and if they come through this in good shape.

    At this stage have got Jestpatim in front..2 really good runs.

    Good contest at this stage...and Donna Riordan has done well in recent years with her 2yr olds...Miami Horror is my smokey..
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  • Unknown
    be good to see Sam Kavanagh's horse come across

    Funkster who told you that betting will open Friday week?
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  • RIORIO    14,902 posts
    Thought i just heard on racing radio that markets will open on Tuesday arvo!?!?!?!?!?!

    But was engaged in a bit of morning road rage with a dickhead motorbike rider who took to passing me on the left hand side in between parked cars and then wanted to enter into a bit of verbal abuse!!!!!

    Couldn't hear the radio properly and not sure if he was upset cos i wasn't paying him any attention as i tried to listen, or cos i flashed my lights at him!!!!! :lol: :lol:
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  • TheFunksterTheFunkster    3,840 posts
    said:

    be good to see Sam Kavanagh's horse come across

    Funkster who told you that betting will open Friday week?

    Not Fri week, this Friday afternoon. Ben Pomatti on RR yesterday morning
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