I think Warren - in this very tough gambling market - with the saturation of sports betting - all you can do is present your product to the best of your ability
And i think Ql;d are doing that - even tho you point out that their turnover has decreased - well that is racing accross the board tho
They were going to lose AP - and get land somewhere else - the qld participants ( unlike the wa participants ) got off their aarse and did something - they lobbied the new govt - reversed the decision - kept their magnificent AP - plus brought back Totting big investment to the Darling Downs area - plus Marburg is going to be a big training centre - so at least Qld are trying their very best
You contrast that to WA - rudderless - and we have had racing ministers and about to get a new one - who have had a very limited knowledge of Trotting
Again you contrast that to Qld - one of their Racing Ministers was Russ Heinze - i look at things fairlly - his honesty highly highly questionable , like some of those ministers under Joh at the time
However he knew racing - some of his relations still train pacers - he got the land for AP and got it built
And if Russ Hienze was Racing minister for WA he would sack/get rid of every person who wanted to keep an outdated 800 metre Metro track and piiss away 30 milliom of industry funds - and in my opinion that wou;ld be to the great betterment of WA Trotting
There ain't no pill to take, not a class you can attend nor a book you can read, stupid is forever.
I mean one cant carry on like a flog towards other participants at the stalls , on a race day and call others stupid. You've been shown the facts and figures the same facts and figures you claim are essential in backing up an argument, and because they dont fit your agenda you discredit them, thats called cherry picking and thats why others take your opinion with a grain of sand
Can you please provide us with facts and figures that prove without a shadow of a doubt that what your actually suggesting is the very reason for the downfall of this sport , otherwise what your saying is just an opinion and we all know opinions mean jack according to some people
Marko, I think a big difference, and I am happy to be corrected, between Albion Park & GP is that GP is totally owned by GP. It is not an industry owned facility (like Byford is). Therefore we as industry participants have absolutely no say in what ultimately happens to GP! From what I understand, even though industry funds are used to "prop" it up, if GP was sold tomorrow, all the proceeds belong the the GP members, not us industry participants.
What has the appointment of a special projects manager in 2023 on a very lucrative remuneration package achieved to make our industry grow and become better?.
What has the appointment of a special projects manager in 2023 on a very lucrative remuneration package achieved to make our industry grow and become better?.
are we talking the same person who helped introduced this much hated nr system that certain members on this forum lauded as the fix this industry needed ?? Appoint mediocrity expect mediocrity
The proportion of the Point of Consumption Tax (POCT) revenue passed directly back to the racing industry varies significantly by state: [1, 2]
Queensland: 80% of POCT revenue is directed to the racing industry.Victoria: 50% of POCT revenue goes directly to the Victorian Racing Industry under a recent 2024 funding deed.New South Wales: 30% of POCT revenue is passed through to the three racing codes.Western Australia: 30% of total revenue collected is returned to the state racing industry. [1, 2, 3, 4]
Increasing the percentage return to the industry will not solve the problem. The problem is people don't bet on the product. It is the product that is broken. Increasing the return on POCT will just give RWWA more money to waste and fritter away and improve their bottom line without fixing the problem. Poor managers make poor decisions.
What has increasing the eligible bodies from one, BOTRA who represents all, to now have thanks to the WATA the GP Owners Association and WASBA achieved to help grow and make our industry better?.
You couldn't get paid enough at Tabtouch to do the prices for the Monday and Tuesday meetings.
GP 7 out of the 8 shocking races, all races 2,100 mts , no stands, no trotters race. Narrogin has 2 1,700 mts plus Higgins heat. But with many running already on Friday and Saturday night in many races. So if you own a trotter there is no races for a week ? Too me the N/R system has devalued the industry so much that in a couple of years the top ten leading trainers will be the ones with horses that can twice a week (meaning metro racing just about finished with no races available) Because with the cost of training fees going up like everything else. Buying a horse for 3 to 5k is only bring rehoming horses from other states with horses the option for owner /trainers
from SYD or MELB is the best option for return on investment. But these aren't horses to sell on (egUSA) so someone will be last in line to rehome and I don't think system can cover the numbers in the next few years. To me N/R systems will destroy the industry. I think we are heading to country racing only in WA. Am I wrong?
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I mean one cant carry on like a flog towards other participants at the stalls , on a race day and call others stupid. You've been shown the facts and figures the same facts and figures you claim are essential in backing up an argument, and because they dont fit your agenda you discredit them, thats called cherry picking and thats why others take your opinion with a grain of sand
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can we have the facts and figures proving it has had either a negative or positive impact ?? Anything other than facts and figures is just an opinion
seems like another "nothing too see here" kind of comment
I think a big difference, and I am happy to be corrected, between Albion Park & GP is that GP is totally owned by GP. It is not an industry owned facility (like Byford is). Therefore we as industry participants have absolutely no say in what ultimately happens to GP! From what I understand, even though industry funds are used to "prop" it up, if GP was sold tomorrow, all the proceeds belong the the GP members, not us industry participants.
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are we talking the same person who helped introduced this much hated nr system that certain members on this forum lauded as the fix this industry needed ?? Appoint mediocrity expect mediocrity
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qld doing something right that's for sure
Queensland: 80% of POCT revenue is directed to the racing industry.Victoria: 50% of POCT revenue goes directly to the Victorian Racing Industry under a recent 2024 funding deed.New South Wales: 30% of POCT revenue is passed through to the three racing codes.Western Australia: 30% of total revenue collected is returned to the state racing industry. [1, 2, 3, 4]
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Never before has the government taken more money away from racing turnover and given less back.
30 cents in the dollar is a pretty clear indication of where we are headed down the toilet.
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you would thing the powers that be would be all over it like a cheap suit however , the golden rule. Never assume
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