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  • MarkovinaMarkovina    3,348 posts
    I think Warren - in this very tough gambling market - with the saturation of sports betting - all you can do is present your product to the best of your ability

    And i think Ql;d are doing that - even tho you point out that their turnover has decreased - well that is racing accross the board tho

    They were going to lose AP - and get land somewhere else - the qld participants ( unlike the wa participants ) got off their aarse and did something - they lobbied the new govt - reversed the decision - kept their magnificent AP - plus brought back Totting big investment to the Darling  Downs area - plus Marburg is going to be a big training centre - so at least Qld are trying their very best 

    You contrast that to WA - rudderless - and we have had racing ministers and about to get a new one - who have had a very limited knowledge of Trotting 

    Again you contrast that to Qld - one of their Racing Ministers was Russ Heinze - i look at things fairlly - his honesty highly highly questionable , like some of those ministers under Joh at the time 

    However he knew racing - some of his relations still train pacers - he got the land for AP and got it built 

    And if Russ Hienze was Racing minister for WA he would sack/get rid of every person who wanted to keep an outdated 800 metre Metro  track and piiss away 30 milliom of industry funds  - and in my opinion that wou;ld be to the great betterment of WA Trotting

     

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  • Chopchop43Chopchop43    471 posts

    There ain't no pill to take, not a class you can attend nor a book you can read, stupid is forever.


    I mean one cant carry on like a flog towards other participants at the stalls , on a race day and call others stupid. You've been shown the facts and figures the same facts and figures you claim are essential in backing up an argument, and because they dont fit your agenda you discredit them, thats called cherry picking and thats why others take your opinion with a grain of sand

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  • warrenrobinsonwarrenrobinson    642 posts
    What has Random Barrier Draws achieved to make our industry grow and become better.
  • Chopchop43Chopchop43    471 posts
    Can you please provide us with facts and figures that prove without a shadow of a doubt that what your actually suggesting is the very reason for the downfall of this sport , otherwise what your saying is just an opinion and we all know opinions mean jack according to some people

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  • warrenrobinsonwarrenrobinson    642 posts
    What has Slot Racing achieved(sample size 4) to make our industry grow and become better?.

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  • Chopchop43Chopchop43    471 posts

    What has Slot Racing achieved(sample size 4) to make our industry grow and become better?.


    can we have the facts and figures proving it has had either a negative or positive impact ?? Anything other than facts and figures is just an opinion
  • warrenrobinsonwarrenrobinson    642 posts
    American Pie 2 Michelle Flaherty.
  • MarkovinaMarkovina    3,348 posts
    Bombshell news to come out of Tasmania in the near future apparently - which might not give you much   incentive to bet
  • Chopchop43Chopchop43    471 posts

    American Pie 2 Michelle Flaherty.


    seems like another "nothing too see here" kind of comment
  • LightningJakeLightningJake    60 posts
    Marko,
    I think a big difference, and I am happy to be corrected, between Albion Park & GP is that GP is totally owned by GP. It is not an industry owned facility (like Byford is). Therefore we as industry participants have absolutely no say in what ultimately happens to GP! From what I understand, even though industry funds are used to "prop" it up, if GP was sold tomorrow, all the proceeds belong the the GP members, not us industry participants.

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  • warrenrobinsonwarrenrobinson    642 posts
    What has the appointment of a special projects manager in 2023 on a very lucrative remuneration package achieved to make our industry grow and become better?.
  • (July 11 08:09AM )
    Chopchop43Chopchop43    471 posts

    What has the appointment of a special projects manager in 2023 on a very lucrative remuneration package achieved to make our industry grow and become better?.


    are we talking the same person who helped introduced this much hated nr system that certain members on this forum lauded as the fix this industry needed ?? Appoint mediocrity expect mediocrity
  • (July 12 03:08AM )
    MarkovinaMarkovina    3,348 posts
    Last night at AP - just watched all 10 races - inter dom pacer and trotters heats 

    I dont think you will see a better nights racing , all 10 races just utterly fantastic , and the 500k - 2 yearold race  just out of this world 

    The betting might say otherwise but that was Champagne harness racing 

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  • (July 12 04:25AM )
    Chopchop43Chopchop43    471 posts
    Markovina said:

    Last night at AP - just watched all 10 races - inter dom pacer and trotters heats 


    I dont think you will see a better nights racing , all 10 races just utterly fantastic , and the 500k - 2 yearold race  just out of this world 

    The betting might say otherwise but that was Champagne harness racing 

    qld doing something right that's for sure
  • (July 12 09:57PM )
    warrenrobinsonwarrenrobinson    642 posts
    What has been achieved over the last forty years to help grow and make the Harness Industry better?.
  • (July 13 01:15AM )
    GilgameshGilgamesh    5,012 posts
    The proportion of the Point of Consumption Tax (POCT) revenue passed directly back to the racing industry varies significantly by state: [1, 2]

    Queensland: 80% of POCT revenue is directed to the racing industry.Victoria: 50% of POCT revenue goes directly to the Victorian Racing Industry under a recent 2024 funding deed.New South Wales: 30% of POCT revenue is passed through to the three racing codes.Western Australia: 30% of total revenue collected is returned to the state racing industry. [1, 2, 3, 4]

  • (July 13 01:17AM )
    GilgameshGilgamesh    5,012 posts
    This is what all you participants need to be lobbying for.

    Never before has the government taken more money away from racing turnover and given less back.

    30 cents in the dollar is a pretty clear indication of where we are headed down the toilet.
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