Lost in Never Neverland

DownTheBack · December 2015

No one likes to give it to jockeys given it's a tough and dangerous gig , but how does one put an even money fav on the fence behind a bunch of 100 to one shots knowing on ratings and form his horse is 8 lengths better than the field and to rub it in in had a wide gate and no reason to go anywhere near the fence and behind half that lot who should never be allowed to run in a race like that .

The_Bull · December 2015

Got out in plenty of time and had every chance to pick up the more under performed horses in front of it. Looked really flat for mine...

Import · December 2015

"Got out in plenty of time"

What does that actually mean?

If the horse wasn't "flat" it suddenly would have exploded through and picked up the winner?

That picking up momentum earlier in the race wouldn't have been beneficial at all?

obrienrb · December 2015

Good thing beat IMO....did they want to win today??? :-? :-w
Might go alright in the cup based on today's run...

Aussiereds72 · December 2015

Was the worst ride by pike for ages and its a huge chance to run 2nd to delicacy

AndrewCarter · December 2015

That's if Delicacy runs, think Bob has a lot bigger fish to fry with Delicacy than the Perth Cup especially with 59kg think he made that point abundantly clear the other day post race.
I'm not sure about this but I think if Delicacy comes out the weights are raised 1.5kg which still gives Neverland the luxury weight of 55.5kg, if it was my horse I would have been keen to give it as soft a run as possible today in the extreme heat after the gutbuster on a very heavy track last start.
They would have won the race I'm sure if they could of but I'm also certain they wouldn't have been disappointed with A) it's run and B) that it had the perfect soft run going into the Perth Cup.
From a financial viewpoint I'm disappointed myself that it didn't win as it was the third leg of a very nice treble with the first two legs being who dat singa and scales of justice but I've got a feeling there's a big pay day on it just around the corner and at considerably better odds.

Import · December 2015

There is a part of me that thinks you are completely right Andrew but in saying that I am left feeling completely befuddled,

Unless I am mistaken Neverland would have got in better at the weights if Delicacy had not been in the field and subsequently withdrawn. I am however happy to stand corrected.

In saying that I have already over-analysed this race and the intentions of connections so will happily stay out of investing on this race unless things become clearer closer to race time.

trooper · December 2015

Un believable.

dungy · December 2015

The_Bull said:
Got out in plenty of time and had every chance to pick up the more under performed horses in front of it. Looked really flat for mine...

Your in la la land watch the race again it got smashed at the top of the lane trying to get a run it was a carve up 1st class

dungy · December 2015

The_Bull said:
Got out in plenty of time and had every chance to pick up the more under performed horses in front of it. Looked really flat for mine...

Post of the year

dungy · December 2015

Down The Back said:
No one likes to give it to jockeys given it's a tough and dangerous gig , but how does one put an even money fav on the fence behind a bunch of 100 to one shots knowing on ratings and form his horse is 8 lengths better than the field and to rub it in in had a wide gate and no reason to go anywhere near the fence and behind half that lot who should never be allowed to run in a race like that .

Spot on mate I said the same to a few mates I was watching it with the moment he went back to the fence he was in a world of pain niccccccccce cup trial

carey · December 2015

Andrew Carter said:
if Delicacy comes out the weights are raised 1.5kg which still gives Neverland the luxury weight of 55.5kg

if delicacy comes out then most of those on 54 will stay on 54 including neverland.
the weights would be raised 1kg for real love & balmont girl & tower of lonhro with the rest of them staying with what they have.

and if the minimum was 53 as it should have been, if he was an honest handicapper, then most of them would have stayed at that weight too.

that is one of the only things wa handicappers have right, and the rest of australia have wrong.
i guess 1 out of 200 ain't bad!

dungy · December 2015

Andrew Carter said:
That's if Delicacy runs, think Bob has a lot bigger fish to fry with Delicacy than the Perth Cup especially with 59kg think he made that point abundantly clear the other day post race.
I'm not sure about this but I think if Delicacy comes out the weights are raised 1.5kg which still gives Neverland the luxury weight of 55.5kg, if it was my horse I would have been keen to give it as soft a run as possible today in the extreme heat after the gutbuster on a very heavy track last start.
They would have won the race I'm sure if they could of but I'm also certain they wouldn't have been disappointed with A) it's run and B) that it had the perfect soft run going into the Perth Cup.
From a financial viewpoint I'm disappointed myself that it didn't win as it was the third leg of a very nice treble with the first two legs being who dat singa and scales of justice but I've got a feeling there's a big pay day on it just around the corner and at considerably better odds.

Agree why would Bob take Delicacy to the Cup when Neverland looks a moral and he still has Real Love and Respondent as well I'm talking through my kick as I took 14-1 Delicacy Cox stakes into Neverland Cup and Neverland in the pre posts but based on that run yesterday Neverland is cherry ripe and put the good mare away the cerise and white will still win anyway

darkshines · December 2015

Willy too often rides 'one size fits all'. As though they all have the turn of foot of Elite Belle or Perfect Reflection.

Doesnt seem to grasp that some of them need to slide into it somewhat. He sat idle on Neverland until the one outside him revved up, then decided to ask her, and it seemed she wasnt able to instantaneously quicken to be able to hold spot and then nudge out. Then he thought fark it, get back to the inner.

Honestly, he couldn't hold the Ponts bags in his prime.

dungy · December 2015

darkshines said:
Willy too often rides 'one size fits all'. As though they all have the turn of foot of Elite Belle or Perfect Reflection.

Doesnt seem to grasp that some of them need to slide into it somewhat. He sat idle on Neverland until the one outside him revved up, then decided to ask her, and it seemed she wasnt able to instantaneously quicken to be able to hold spot and then nudge out. Then he thought **** it, get back to the inner.

Honestly, he couldn't hold the Ponts bags in his prime.

Your honesty means the world LOL LOL LOL

carey · December 2015

dungy said:

darkshines said:
Willy too often rides 'one size fits all'. As though they all have the turn of foot of Elite Belle or Perfect Reflection.

Doesnt seem to grasp that some of them need to slide into it somewhat. He sat idle on Neverland until the one outside him revved up, then decided to ask her, and it seemed she wasnt able to instantaneously quicken to be able to hold spot and then nudge out. Then he thought **** it, get back to the inner.

Honestly, he couldn't hold the Ponts bags in his prime.
Your honesty means the world LOL LOL LOL

dungy, may i ask what presents you and your boy friend are swapping for xmas?

darkshines · December 2015

dungy said:

darkshines said:
Willy too often rides 'one size fits all'. As though they all have the turn of foot of Elite Belle or Perfect Reflection.

Doesnt seem to grasp that some of them need to slide into it somewhat. He sat idle on Neverland until the one outside him revved up, then decided to ask her, and it seemed she wasnt able to instantaneously quicken to be able to hold spot and then nudge out. Then he thought **** it, get back to the inner.

Honestly, he couldn't hold the Ponts bags in his prime.
Your honesty means the world LOL LOL LOL

Yeah, my honesty won't get your money back will it. Lol

dungy · December 2015

carey said:

dungy said:

darkshines said:
Willy too often rides 'one size fits all'. As though they all have the turn of foot of Elite Belle or Perfect Reflection.

Doesnt seem to grasp that some of them need to slide into it somewhat. He sat idle on Neverland until the one outside him revved up, then decided to ask her, and it seemed she wasnt able to instantaneously quicken to be able to hold spot and then nudge out. Then he thought **** it, get back to the inner.

Honestly, he couldn't hold the Ponts bags in his prime.
Your honesty means the world LOL LOL LOL
dungy, may i ask what presents you and your boy friend are swapping for xmas?

Just concentrate on trying to get yourself a handicappers job in the NY LOL

dungy · December 2015

darkshines said:

dungy said:

darkshines said:
Willy too often rides 'one size fits all'. As though they all have the turn of foot of Elite Belle or Perfect Reflection.

Doesnt seem to grasp that some of them need to slide into it somewhat. He sat idle on Neverland until the one outside him revved up, then decided to ask her, and it seemed she wasnt able to instantaneously quicken to be able to hold spot and then nudge out. Then he thought **** it, get back to the inner.

Honestly, he couldn't hold the Ponts bags in his prime.
Your honesty means the world LOL LOL LOL
Yeah, my honesty won't get your money back will it. Lol

We will get it back matey dont worry about that its only cash LOL merry xmas keep smiling

carey · December 2015

dungy said:

carey said:

dungy said:

darkshines said:
Willy too often rides 'one size fits all'. As though they all have the turn of foot of Elite Belle or Perfect Reflection.

Doesnt seem to grasp that some of them need to slide into it somewhat. He sat idle on Neverland until the one outside him revved up, then decided to ask her, and it seemed she wasnt able to instantaneously quicken to be able to hold spot and then nudge out. Then he thought **** it, get back to the inner.

Honestly, he couldn't hold the Ponts bags in his prime.
Your honesty means the world LOL LOL LOL
dungy, may i ask what presents you and your boy friend are swapping for xmas?
Just concentrate on trying to get yourself a handicappers job in the NY LOL

dungy, it does not interest me, but when you think of it, it would not be too hard in wa, as the current mob are way out of their comfort zones.

maybe you could apply?
forget it, as come to think of it, peters horses seem to get lots of favours, so are you sure your name is not ian or david???

trustygusty · December 2015

dungy said:

The_Bull said:
Got out in plenty of time and had every chance to pick up the more under performed horses in front of it. Looked really flat for mine...
Post of the year

hahahahahahahahaha what horse were you watching bull. Geeze

Sticks · December 2015

I think they'd be very happy with neverlands ride yesterday. pike obviously wasnt going to give it a gut buster in the heat before the cup. Probably the perfect run leading into the cup. for the connections POV

Punters on the otherhand (including myself)...... :-q

dungy · December 2015

darkshines said:

dungy said:

darkshines said:
Willy too often rides 'one size fits all'. As though they all have the turn of foot of Elite Belle or Perfect Reflection.

Doesnt seem to grasp that some of them need to slide into it somewhat. He sat idle on Neverland until the one outside him revved up, then decided to ask her, and it seemed she wasnt able to instantaneously quicken to be able to hold spot and then nudge out. Then he thought **** it, get back to the inner.

Honestly, he couldn't hold the Ponts bags in his prime.
Your honesty means the world LOL LOL LOL
Yeah, my honesty won't get your money back will it. Lol

#livinginthepast

therealkramer · December 2015

Sticks said:
I think they'd be very happy with neverlands ride yesterday. pike obviously wasnt going to give it a gut buster in the heat before the cup. Probably the perfect run leading into the cup. for the connections POV

Punters on the otherhand (including myself)...... :-q

I'll have to watch it again. I thought he took a lot of inside runs and crept closer during the race without covering ground. I was on Properantes myself and I felt ill a long way out.

thefalcon · December 2015

did ANYBODY catch the run of Respondent?

dungy · December 2015

darkshines said:
Willy too often rides 'one size fits all'. As though they all have the turn of foot of Elite Belle or Perfect Reflection.

Doesnt seem to grasp that some of them need to slide into it somewhat. He sat idle on Neverland until the one outside him revved up, then decided to ask her, and it seemed she wasnt able to instantaneously quicken to be able to hold spot and then nudge out. Then he thought fark it, get back to the inner.

Honestly, he couldn't hold the Ponts bags in his prime.

Rode half the card again lol lol

#muppet

dungy · December 2015

the falcon said:
did ANYBODY catch the run of Respondent?

Big weight drop as well

AndrewCarter · December 2015

Sorry guys just watched the replay but Respondent was average again, it hasn't hit the line once all prep and I can't remember the last time it ran right through the line.

Backing out of form horses to suddenly regain their old form is a quick trip to the poor house but each to their own.

Barring shocking bad luck or injury to any of the genuine chances it can't possibly win.

Chelsea · December 2015

Pike rides Neverland in perth cup over Delicacy

AndrewCarter · December 2015

No surprise on its last run as regardless of the poor quality of that field it was a fantastic cup trial.

thefalcon · December 2015

Hall back on I guess....

G'day Punter!

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