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BobbyDavisBobbyDavis    916 posts
I've noticed that young Jordan Turner is riding Freetime on Wednesday. Immediately upon seeing this I thought to myself that this engagement has the potential to do more harm than good. The horse has been a pretty difficult ride more often than not for both apprentices and senior riders alike. By "harm" I'm mainly thinking of interference caused if the horse does prove difficult for this inexperienced lad, but also for the lads confidence and also the confidence of other trainers/owners in Jordan.
Unless the new trainer had sorted out Freetime's brain of course.
I think this highlights the need for some form of consultation or judgement call by the turf clubs apprentice supervisors rather than allowing these new riders to jump onto any horse after a couple of dozen rides.
Thoughts?
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  • JordanJordan    1,827 posts
    I'm sure Ben wouldn't put him on if he didn't think he could handle it the horse has actually been ridden by 9 different apprentices in his time so can't be too bad a ride. Has had a tendency to hang but I'm sure Bens got that sorted jump and run on Wednesday and give them something to catch ;)
  • thefalconthefalcon    20,483 posts

    good point, bobby. personally i feel "green", inexperienced apprentices should cut their teeth on the country circuit. the fields are smaller and gives them a chance to get the feel of pace etc. admittedly their peers are not the top jocks but they are horsemen and can impart a wealth of knowledge.

    the girls seem to cut their teeth on the outer circuit and so should young jordan, and other 4 claimers...regardless of who his dad is...in fact i think troy would agree.

    probably 50 rides in the outer tracks would be an idea...they could do that in a few months and gain invaluable experience.

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  • Piston_BrokePiston_Broke    2,047 posts
    "Has had a tendency to hang " very kind to the horse. 
  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    has in the past been a very difficult ride. the only way for jordan to ride this horse will be to let it have its head and go as fast as it wants. if he finds himself having to grab hold, that could mean trouble. having said that, its the only way to ride this horse in my opinion and has drawn 1. 

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  • trojanhorsetrojanhorse    345 posts
    In Melbourne they are not let to ride in city until after 5 winners in less meets.


    Apprentice “B” permit: After being granted a permit to ride an
    Apprentice who has ridden 5 or more winning rides may apply to the Stewards for daily permission to ride at a Metropolitan Race Meeting other than at race meetings designated by Racing Victoria as being part of the Spring Racing Carnival or
    Autumn Racing Carnival.

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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,483 posts
    be interesting to watch, diva
  • MeatheadMeathead    130 posts
    In The Mood is rarely beaten over the first 100. Can see him crossing Freetime.

    No offence to the kid but he shouldn't be riding in the city yet. I've watched him closely on a few (Antonino, Resets Mate, Two Strong Hearts) and he looks all at sea. .

    Again not being critical of the kid, just think they should have to lose the first kg of their apprenticeship in the country. Or something similar.

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  • GoddGodd    203 posts
    He won't hang if there's horse to his outside
  • GoddGodd    203 posts
    He has never interfered with another horse.
  • BobbyDavisBobbyDavis    916 posts
    edited June 2014
    Godd said:

    He has never interfered with another horse.

    Godd has spoken

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  • darkshinesdarkshines    2,837 posts
    Meathead said:

    In The Mood is rarely beaten over the first 100. Can see him crossing Freetime.

    No offence to the kid but he shouldn't be riding in the city yet. I've watched him closely on a few (Antonino, Resets Mate, Two Strong Hearts) and he looks all at sea. .

    Again not being critical of the kid, just think they should have to lose the first kg of their apprenticeship in the country. Or something similar.

    The TSH ride was unreal
  • trojanhorsetrojanhorse    345 posts
    It is happened again......thread of Inexperienced Apprentices is turned to debate of racing manner of a 9 years old racer.
  • MobileLinkMobileLink    398 posts
    J Turner will be a star of the future give the kid a break hope he wins on Freetime today not for me but good luck J Turner

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  • BobbyDavisBobbyDavis    916 posts

    J Turner will be a star of the future give the kid a break hope he wins on Freetime today not for me but good luck J Turner

    Don't stress MobileLink I don't think anyone is saying anything against the boy, we are just commenting on the system. I'm sure he will do well over time, with the backing of his family and a proven mentor like Webster.

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  • RIORIO    14,902 posts
    edited June 2014
    we have inexperienced apprentices because............wait for it........they are NEW apprentices.

    Congrats to Jordan for his rides so far and it is great that he is getting rides in the and around the city so that his parents can be there to help and advise..I am sure that when he is right to ride 4 or 5 a day, he will find himself out bush in the near future, where he will show his true ability.

    Let the kid breathe and develop, that is why he is a 4kg claimer...They don't have that claim cos they are the best apprentices, they have it cos they are the new apprentice.

    Am sure the ride on Freetime is a hold on and let him run type of ride. In which the lightest jock that can hold on is generally the best option....4kg apprentice from the good barrier draw is ideal.

    AFTER writing the above i thought i'd go and see his stats...He's ridden up Roebourne!!!! - how more country do we want the lad to go???? haha AND, he is only a 3kg claimer at the midweeks...which i didn't realise happened to 4kg claimers....thought they carried that claim no matter where they rode!?!?!
  • Raff_2000Raff_2000    802 posts
    I will also add, that Before Jordan rode the horse at Belmont, he won a trial on him by many a length, so it's not as though he was jumping on board for the first time ;)
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