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What would bring you back to the track?

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RadmanRadman    1,992 posts
edited November -1 West Australian Racing
- Shorter time between races?
- A massive playground to entertain the littlies?
- More Entertainment ie Bands, Music, Rides
- Higher quality racing?

Ideas??

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  • octaviusoctavius    2,290 posts
    said:

    - Shorter time between races?
    - A massive playground to entertain the littlies?
    - More Entertainment ie Bands, Music, Rides
    - Higher quality racing?

    Ideas??

    A Hooters joint on course should do the trick.

    Buffalo Wings, Beer, Big Screen Sports, Tits and Ass.
  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts
    Have those every week - Hens shows
  • RadmanRadman    1,992 posts
    said:

    A Hooters joint on course should do the trick.

    Buffalo Wings, Beer, Big Screen Sports, Tits and Ass.

    Not the worst idea ever, any others?
  • TorpedoPuntTorpedoPunt    1,891 posts
    Never build ya business around bands.
  • MagicPussyMagicPussy    23 posts
    Lower the prices on food and alcohol
    and belmont - needs an upgrade, a disgrace to Perth Racing. Worst winter track in Aust, no wonder no one goes there - there is no atmosphere at all. :roll:
  • thefalconthefalcon    20,471 posts
    Improve what is loosly called food...have you copped the "hamburgers"?
    Call for new tenders...
    Yep, and lower the price of drinks...robbery!
    See where Tivs mentioned the racegoers ot Randwick last sat were up in arms being charged 7 bucks a beer.
    $9.5 for a Corona is...well.... :x
    Should be $6 tops...thats $144 a carton..more than enough to cover overheards and leave a decent cop...
  • OR BRING IN AN OWNERS CARD with a 20% discount

    I would probably have a couple of steady mexicans if they were only $7.60

    the one every so often party goers probably wouldnt care so much about $9.50 a pop

    PS - you should join a bowls club falcon - only $5.50 at my place :P
  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts
    Genuine 1980's prices !!!
    (updated from the Crackerjack line)
  • the more you drink the more you save :P :P
  • SprintcarSprintcar    99 posts
    Owners card definately, cheaper drinks, better food, yes, shorter time between races yes. This last is trickier and i can hear howls of complaint but they do it successfully elsewhere, R.Freedman suggested it on Racing Retro.
  • Night Racing is something that should be happening in WA but its a long way down the track yet

    even Tassie beat us to that one
  • TheFunksterTheFunkster    3,840 posts
    said:

    Have those every week - Hens shows

    More hens shows! :P
    Cheap champagne for hens shows! :wink:
  • thefalconthefalcon    20,471 posts
    Barossa Pearl.... :P
    After a few glasses of that...pat 'em on the head and their pants fall off.... :lol:
  • mcginty71nzmcginty71nz    195 posts
    falc the romantic strikes again. :lol: :lol: :lol:
  • slipatiptomeslipatiptome    3,351 posts
    Barossa Pearl..... Falcon Foreplay :!: :!:
  • slipatiptomeslipatiptome    3,351 posts
    said:

    Owners card definately, cheaper drinks, better food, yes, shorter time between races yes. This last is trickier and i can hear howls of complaint but they do it successfully elsewhere, R.Freedman suggested it on Racing Retro.

    I proposed on here previously 30 minutes between races and set times eg VIC on the hour and half hour. NSW quarter past and quarter to the hour.etc etc I think it can work but obvious drawback for Bookies and Tabs is less gambling time in between races.

    Owners' Cards is a good idea but would be open to abuse. Proof of ID would be required. How about all owners get a nightclub style stamp when they enter the course?
  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts
    One thing I learnt a long time ago in the entertainment industry - it doesn't matter who you give a discount to, as long as they show up !
  • RodentRodent    7,446 posts
    said:

    Night Racing is something that should be happening in WA but its a long way down the track yet

    even Tassie beat us to that one

    Why? I went to the night races at Canterbury on a Friday night a couple of weeks ago and the weather was good. The crowd seemed quite small to me. I took my 2 sons and walked in free of charge with 2 races to go (teaching my kids "value"), picked up a discarded racebook and had a look around for old time's sake. No gallops on in WA so of course I didn't have a bet.
    In the late 80's through to the late 90's I would go to every metro meeting in Sydney. There were heaps more people at a Wednesday Canterbury meeting back then. There are so few in attendance these days that the betting ring has been moved indoors and the old ring is now a car park :roll:
    Clearly the additional cost of night racing hasn't "brought the crowds back". It must be inconvenient for the participants too.
    Why did I go to the track and never miss a metro meeting? Why did I frequent the provincials (Gosford, Wyong, Hawkesbury and Kembla)?
    Why? I'll tell you why.....ADVANTAGE. I attended to gain an advantage. At home or at the TAB, you had audio of the races (I first watched a race in a TAB in December 1987 in QLD as there was no vision in NSW TAB's at that time) and 1 option to bet, your home state TAB. You could have interstate phone accounts but the prices weren't broadcast back then.
    At the track you had the option of fixed odds which was a HUGE advantage. The biggest advantage though was SEEING them race. You could watch local and interstate gallops on closed circuit tv. You could watch replay after replay of the locals. If you were fair dinkum about giving yourself a chance to win, you just had to attend the races.
    Nowadays, for me, if I attend Sydney meetings to bet on Perth (as I did in the 90's), it would be a massive step backwards.
    One can't look back and hope for large crowds. We need to attract people to the game. We need them to get interested in the product. Whether or not they attend the track is secondary. It'd be nice if they did but I wouldn't hold my breath.
  • personally I find I bet better when I go to the track
  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts
    I bet best when I'm furtherest away (eg Eastern States etc)
    Bet to my knowledge without others getting in my head.
    Once backed 5 winners from 6 races on an Ascot card from the Gold Coast sales :)
  • slipatiptomeslipatiptome    3,351 posts
    What surprises me is the crowds you witness (On Skyracing) attending ordinary meetings in the UK and on most tracks there punters are treated a lot more poorly facility wise and pay a lot more for the priviledge and to my knowledge there is no free entry on any days.

    The UK is supposed to be enduring a recession, the punters can get the same service we get away from the track and for most of the year the weather is a heck of a lot poorer yet they appear to attract better crowds than Australian tracks.

    You may argue UK has bigger population but I once attended a meeting at Belmont in the USA and there was a very poor crowd that day and despite the population attendances in general in the States is very ordinary.
  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts
    Would LOVE to go to Belmont !!! (NY)
  • manfromnantucketmanfromnantucket    676 posts
    i think that we need to syncronize with eastern states racing instead of joinging half way through the meeting, especially during carnival times. i reckon we definately need to do this for the eastern states night racing season. i believe we need to dedicate a country track race in sync with the friday night racing.........but this wont pull crowds this will only help our betting turnover.

    i think to pull in crowds these days you cant 'advertise' or 'promote' the racing. Realistically who goes to watch racing unless you are going to see something like Black Caviar. This is now the beez neez of advertising for racing. you mention Black Caviar to someone these days and you are nearly guaranteed that they have heard of her, wheere as if you had mentioned her to the same people if she hadnt won 12 straight say, won 1 they wouldnt have a clue bout her.

    Racing needs something to bring in the younger generation, say a Sunday race meeting in the summer - strike up a deal with a radio station and run a sunday session there. Put on a couple of bus's to tranport people, throw down a few patches of beach sand and throw up a few nets and have 'beach volleyball' going, through in some themes, like maybe a cowboy/cowgirl day, maybe a mexican day treat it as a party not a race meeting. boosted by the 'deal' struck with a radio station all of a sudden you have a wider audience, free advertising and so on.
    maybe throw it one day like a 'royal show' kinda things, as in have a few rides like your country shows something the whole family can go see and have the races worked into it and co-ordinated with the program
  • thefalconthefalcon    20,471 posts
    Some good points there, mate..especially a promotional partnership with a radio station.
    But, knowing this mob they'd opt for pensioners radio..6NR...Curtain... :roll:
    Peter Waltham as MC.... :wink:
  • TheFunksterTheFunkster    3,840 posts
    Weds twilight meets in summer at Belmont to coincide with happy Valley would attract people.
    Especially with a redeveloped Belmont and the other attractions that the proposed entertainment complex offers
  • manfromnantucketmanfromnantucket    676 posts
    i think part of the problem is that there is too many old people involved in 'the final say' of things. i dont mean this in a rude way either. most of your small country clubs are run by fossils. and when it comes to approving certain aspects of 'money raising' by the clubs they say no. and this is because they are set in there own ways and a party style atmoasphere or an 'adults only' kinda theme isnt the old skool way so they are against it............. or the other thing is that because there are fossils running these clubs they dont think of marketing to the younger crowd at all.
  • thefalconthefalcon    20,471 posts
    I'm almost a fossil but I agree 100% with what you say.
  • manfromnantucketmanfromnantucket    676 posts
    as i said i didnt mmean it in being rude there are some yummy fossils around. lol um also i've discovered that not all of these clubs are run by people that dont have any idea either. yes they may be really good at doing the ordering, taking noms and all the reception related matters but coming to a club that in reality needs to be pulled out of the dung (since most clubs are there) organising a cost effective money makin plan not alot of our clubs organisers are entrepeneurs
  • let them in for $0 is the 1st thing to do
  • manfromnantucketmanfromnantucket    676 posts
    dont charge three quarters of a years salary for a book is another
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