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Stewards had earlier opened and adjourned an inquiry into actions by leading reinsman Gary Hall Jr after he finished fifth with $2.90 favourite Spirit Of Shard in the fourth race.

Delaney said stewards would further study videos of an incident about 20m past finishing line.

Evidence was last night taken from Hall and reinsman Nathan Turvey, who ran sixth in the fourth event with Parasite ($6.30).

Hall told stewards he did not hear distinctly when Turvey called to him in the race. He had moved close to Turvey after the event, in order to ask Turvey what he had called.

After last night's meeting, Delaney screened for media representatives a video taken side-on of the post-race incident. It showed Hall swing his right arm across towards Turvey, who was on Hall's left side.

"Before the inquiry resumes, stewards will examine videos which were taken from a number of angles," Delaney said. "We want to clearly see what happened in the incident."


I just watched the replay, amazing to say the least, right after the line Hall took a swipe at Turvey, holiday for sure!

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  • slipatiptomeslipatiptome    3,351 posts
    Mark Miller got 10 years for something similar.
  • nothing similar at all slip, grabbed the reins.

    Aidan Warwick got a stint for something similar
  • G-MacG-Mac    1,677 posts
    First time I've watched that replay too. The pair of them seemed to be in each others ears for the last lap and it certainly looks as if Hall took a swipe after the line. Not good at all.
  • TheDarkHorseTheDarkHorse    129 posts
    edited September 2010
    Both drivers are in trouble :
  • mattmatt    72 posts
    PB Aiden got 12 months for tipping Billy Hayes out at Pinjarra trials by grabbing his cart
  • TheDarkHorseTheDarkHorse    129 posts
    said:

    PB Aiden got 12 months for tipping Billy Hayes out at Pinjarra trials by grabbing his cart

    Yes he did Matty - Never seen anything like that before in my life!
  • slipatiptomeslipatiptome    3,351 posts
    said:

    nothing similar at all slip, grabbed the reins.

    Surely they are on a par Piston. If Hall was smart he would have kept it at the verbal stage and not gone further as may be the case.
  • slipatiptomeslipatiptome    3,351 posts
    Any news on this.
  • dungydungy    9,278 posts
    6 weeks is a disgrace
  • G-MacG-Mac    1,677 posts
    6 weeks?
    Where did you get that news Dungy? I haven't been able to get an update anywhere.
  • GoodBabaGoodBaba    563 posts
    Today's paper, G-Mac :-

    Quote

    Reinsman Gary Hall Jr yesterday copped a six-week suspension after he was found guilty of attempting to strike Nathan Turvey with his whip after the finish of Friday night's claiming pace at Gloucester Park.

    The suspension was effective from midnight, but Hall is certain to appeal. Stewards inquired into Turvey's actions, but did not consider the evidence sufficient to act against him.

    Unquote
  • G-MacG-Mac    1,677 posts
    It's up on Harness.org.au now.

    That is a weak suspension.
  • slipatiptomeslipatiptome    3,351 posts
    Weak? It is unbelievable!!!!!
  • KingKing    264 posts
    There is a precedent. And Hall got exactly the same as the prior case.
  • slipatiptomeslipatiptome    3,351 posts
    So that means Kingy from here to eternity that is the most any reinsman can expect for that sort of behaviour.

    Prededent or not did you think it was suitable?
  • KingKing    264 posts
    Probably not suitable, no.

    But as in any legal system, where there is a precedent set for a very similar event, the powers that be don't have much room to increase the penalty for the defendant for a first time offense of that kind of nature.

    As if they made a higher penalty for this case, the defendant has a blatant cause for appeal, and one which is hard to argue against.

    More to the point, maybe the stewards were too leniant in the first case?
    But what can they do now?
  • SuburbanPunkSuburbanPunk    199 posts
    Russell T Betts - one of the greatest form analysts I have ever known.
  • KingKing    264 posts
    Not even close, W!
  • TheDarkHorseTheDarkHorse    129 posts
    said:

    Russell T Betts - one of the greatest form analysts I have ever known.

    I Think Wes Cameron is the best form analyst ive ever known - Just proves looks are deceiving! :lol:
  • slipatiptomeslipatiptome    3,351 posts
    No shortage of inside info either.
  • RazorSharpRazorSharp    439 posts
    said:

    said:

    Russell T Betts - one of the greatest form analysts I have ever known.

    I Think Wes Cameron is the best form analyst ive ever known - Just proves looks are deceiving! :lol:
    Betts is in a league of his own. Wes is good, but when does the fella rest, I could never work out when he would give his late mail tips they were always his tips that were in the paper, not happening as often now.

    For Hall to get 6 weeks is a joke, should have been 6 months
  • slipatiptomeslipatiptome    3,351 posts
    said:

    For Hall to get 6 weeks is a joke, should have been 6 months

    Add a bit on top of that.

    Just out of interest how many ex reinsmen are currently stewards? I know there have been some in the past.
  • thetrackmanthetrackman    8 posts
    Hall getting 6 weeks and turvey nothing is the joke. Its funny even when he also believes so, which is the word on the street. All the other blokes would have been hoping G Jnr would get more so they could get more wins on the leading drivers up on him but that still wouldnt matter as most of the WA drivers have no idea and he would catch them anyway.

    As an on looker and participant in the game, I have come to realize that WA is dominated by a handful of drivers with a clue, that you could only put total confidence with your hard earned on. I have been watching races and replays of driives over the past month and WA is getting worse.

    With guys not knowing the opposition and destroying runners, to guys not even running with the basics of rating a horse in front. Classic examples of people leading and letting sit sprinters off their back to get run down in the last stride. It is unreal that people would put themselves in that position.

    Good drivers do the hard yards. Get to the track learn the basics even roll to the extent of asking some of the guys who have a clue for some tips or pointers as dont think you are the golden hands of WA harness as you are not.

    This will start some comments but i assure you head back, watch some replays and you will agree with 'the trackman"
  • KingKing    264 posts
    I am unsure if you have stated anything ground-breaking, Mr Trackman. Do you take Tracky for short?

    However, reading between the lines, I can agree with your sentiments in paragraphs three and four.
  • ChariotsonfireChariotsonfire    3,025 posts
    edited October 2010
    You are 100% right in paragraph three Trackman.

    Gary Hall did exactly that in two group one races and got beaten.
  • thetrackmanthetrackman    8 posts
    Well a little more pressure in the big races but granted! On the other hand he has won more group races than you or i ever will so i guess we can see pass that. And for the record i will always give credit where credit is due and i will give him absolute credit to the sky as he has driven more good races in the big ones than bad so your comment based on that means nothing to me.

    I am a fan of consistant talent across all sports and he has proven that. Are you jealous Chariots??
  • KingKing    264 posts
    edited October 2010
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  • KingKing    264 posts
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  • ChariotsonfireChariotsonfire    3,025 posts
    Not in the least jealous Trackman but I asssume you were having a go at Morgan Woodley's drive on Grinjaro and if you were you are correct.

    I was just pointing out that Gary has done the same thing on occasions but that does not detract from his overall ability and achievements.

    All of our top drivers make mistakes from time to time but less on a pro rata basis than the rest.
  • slipatiptomeslipatiptome    3,351 posts
    For a while there Woodley was driving like a star but not as many winners in recent times. Some times drives like Frank Woodley (comedian).
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