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TJ Smith Trophy

West Australian Racing
TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
edited November -1 West Australian Racing
I will add a poll when final acceptances are taken Thursday morning.

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3YO 1 $75000 SCHWEPPES-T.J. SMITH TROPHY 1600M
( LISTED RACE )
(NO ALLOWANCE FOR APPRENTICES)
(FOR Three-Years-Old Colts & Geldings)
METRO - OPEN 3YO MINIMUM WEIGHT: 53.0
1. - - - - HAWKEYE MORT 15 MORTIMER, A.H. 58.0 ( 75) [----]
2. 7 1 2 1 KIM COIN 1 BURNETT, M. 58.0 ( 75) [156:6]
3. - - 3 5 LIQUIDATION 17 PATEMAN, D.R. 58.0 ( 75) [160:9]
4. - 1 1 3 PHENOMENONS 7 EDWARDS, S.A. 57.0 ( 73) [160:9]
5. - - 1 0 PRINCE OF SILK (B) 20 PARNHAM, N.D. 56.0 ( 70) [160:7]
6. - 2 6 0 SAXON PALACE (B) 24 JORDAN, P.H. 56.0 ( 70) [160:7]
7. 1p 4 1 3 SHAJEZAR (B) 14 MILLER, MRS S.L. 56.0 ( 70) [156:6]
8. - 0 1 2 DANAMOSS (NZ) (B) 22 MATHEWS, A.D. 55.0 ( 67) [114:3]
9. - - 3 3 COOL AS HEL (B) 27 NAIRN, MISS R.L. 54.5 ( 66) [160:5]
10. - - 4 0 AFRICAN ACTION (B) 23 EDWARDS, S.A. 54.0 ( 65) [160:7]
11. T5 1 FLYING FALCON 6 SMITH, L. 54.0 ( 65) [116:1]
12. - 9 3 1 PEARLER (B) 25 PARNHAM, N.D. 54.0 ( 65) [166:4]
13. - - 6 3 ALMOHAD 16 LUCIANI, L.P. 53.5 ( 63) [160:7]
14. - 2p 1p 2 LOBBYIST (B) 21 DURRANT, A.G. 53.5 ( 64) [156:6]
15. 2 2 4 5 DOMINICANO 13 MC AULIFFE, D.T. 53.0 ( 62) [164:2]
16. T3 5p 2p 1p XAARPHONIC 19 PRICE, J.W. 53.0 ( 62) [162:1]
17. T1 0 2 3 TOP GUN (B) E1 12 TAYLOR, J.P. 53.0 ( 61) [166:4]
18. 6p 9 0 9 NEED LUCK E2 26 PATEMAN, D.R. 53.0 ( 60) [160:7]
19. 8 4 2p 5p DESTROID (B) E3 8 LUCIANI, L.P. 53.0 ( 58) [159:4]
20. T8 0p 5p VERISSIMO E4 10 LANE, M.L. 53.0 ( 58) [162:1]
21. - - - 6p REMILIO (B) E5 11 PARNHAM, N.D. 53.0 ( 58) [159:1]
22. T3 T1 4p 0p LEGAL AGENT E6 3 HAGGERTY, I.S. 53.0 ( 58) [162:3]
23. T2 6p 7p REBOUNDING E7 5 GRANT, M.J. 53.0 ( 57) [159:1]
24. - - - - STAR JOHNSON E8 4 O'BRIEN, R.J. 53.0 ( 57) [----]
25. - - - 0 NEGRA SANTO E9 2 NICOL, G.E. 53.0 ( 56) [158:4]
26. - 9p REGAL RUSSIAN (B) E10 9 LUCIANI, L.P. 53.0 ( 56) [159:1]
27. - - 0p KALAHAHNI (B) E11 18 JACKSON, G.A. 53.0 ( 56) [162:3]
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Comments

  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    flying falcon first up in the TJ Smith, interesting runner!
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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    edited February 2009
    Very interesting race - KIM COIN looks to take up the early speed drawn 1 - then gotta wonder how many of these horses drawn 16+ are gonna accept given Phenomenons has gate 7 and probably get the run of the race. Heaps of emg drawn nice gates - how many of them will get in tho??

    Which riders take which runners?

    Turner - Phenom
    McGruddy - Kim Coin
    Harvey - Flying Falcon
    Whiting - Almohad
    Pike - Shajezar

    others ?????

    PS - Given recent feature results i.e. 2 listed races this weekend both winners come from gate 14 - I wonder if any trainers will be too concerned about barriers??
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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    TJ SMITH TROPHY HISTORY

    Year Horse Trainer Jockey Weight Price Bar Time Last 600m
    2008 Blueclase B Graham D Staeck 54.5 $26.00 11 1.35.02 35.01
    2007 Guyno L Luciani J Whiting 54 $3.20 5 1.48.79 34.93
    2006 Scenic Shot D Morton J Brown 55.5 $3.00 6 1.51.90 34.05
    2004 Stringmaster G Daley K Forrester 53 $11.00 4 1.51.66 34.82
    2003 Happy Johnson G Ballantyne T Turner 52 $14.00 10 2.05.52 36.40
    2002 Wool Zone R Price J Whiting 52 $9.00 8 1.50.71 36.05
    2001 Dexian P Humann D Staeck 55 $2.10 4 1.51.84 37.29
    2000 Grand Turismo F Maynard J Noske 53 $13.00 14 1.49.10 35.81
    1999 Donizetti P Wagg T Turner 54 $4.80 4 1.49.10 35.41
    1998 San Sanatra I Grieg P Dyson 54.5 $15.00 1 2.18.21 37.04


    Notes - Highest winning weight 55.5kg
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  • MightAndPowerMightAndPower    4,148 posts
    dont know much about the 3 most distant winners but aside from SS who has turned out very good and guyno fairly good,not a great honour roll is it?? stringmaster,happy johnson,wool zone etc :?

    might see a good one win this version though.
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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    Dexian was a super 3yo - won about 10 races I think

    Mixed bad really - Wool Zone currently plodding around SA still :shock:
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  • CountrycallerCountrycaller    480 posts
    edited February 2009
    Is this a race in town ?, sorry all my attention will be at Esperance for the Cup meeting there this Saturday. :wink:

    Will be attending my 19th Cup meeting in 20 years, and still look forward to it every year. Great social day out. image
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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    said:

    Is this a race in town ?, sorry all my attention will be at Esperance for the Cup meeting there this Saturday. :wink:

    Will be attending my 19th Cup meeting in 20 years, and still look forward to it every year. image Great social day out.

    Feel free to start an Esperance Cup Day thread
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  • CountrycallerCountrycaller    480 posts
    Will do Della after final fields come out.
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  • darkshinesdarkshines    2,837 posts
    Donizetti was very very smart. Sold to Honkers for decent sum back then and never settled/broke down.
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  • GENGEN    174 posts
    San Sanatra was a very good horse in the making until he broke down.
    Had sh*t loads of leg problems all through.
    One of the ones that did not reach their full potential
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  • bartfargbartfarg    667 posts
    grand turismo also had problems and lots of ability. Always the good ones that break down isn't it.
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  • bartfargbartfarg    667 posts
    said:

    flying falcon first up in the TJ Smith, interesting runner!

    star johnson :shock: and hawkeye mort both first up also.
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  • loose_gooseloose_goose    2,135 posts
    said:

    TJ SMITH TROPHY HISTORY

    Year Horse Trainer Jockey Weight Price Bar Time Last 600m
    2008 Blueclase B Graham D Staeck 54.5 $26.00 11 1.35.02 35.01
    2007 Guyno L Luciani J Whiting 54 $3.20 5 1.48.79 34.93
    2006 Scenic Shot D Morton J Brown 55.5 $3.00 6 1.51.90 34.05
    2004 Stringmaster G Daley K Forrester 53 $11.00 4 1.51.66 34.82
    2003 Happy Johnson G Ballantyne T Turner 52 $14.00 10 2.05.52 36.40
    2002 Wool Zone R Price J Whiting 52 $9.00 8 1.50.71 36.05
    2001 Dexian P Humann D Staeck 55 $2.10 4 1.51.84 37.29
    2000 Grand Turismo F Maynard J Noske 53 $13.00 14 1.49.10 35.81
    1999 Donizetti P Wagg T Turner 54 $4.80 4 1.49.10 35.41
    1998 San Sanatra I Grieg P Dyson 54.5 $15.00 1 2.18.21 37.04


    Notes - Highest winning weight 55.5kg

    Interesting that 4 ex Jockeys/turned trainers have trained the winner, 1 ex trotting trainer/driver, 1 ex State Schoolboy footballer. (Gee I must be bored) :cry:
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  • jetpilotjetpilot    59 posts
    [quot

    Which riders take which runners?

    Turner - Phenom
    McGruddy - Kim Coin
    Harvey - Flying Falcon
    Whiting - Almohad
    Pike - Shajezar

    others ?????

    i believe A. mallyon is flying back to resume the ride on liquidation
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  • squid69squid69    1,434 posts
    Wool Zone could be headed for Oakbank at Easter :?:
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  • DarkDark    909 posts
    If PHENOMENONS starts the other might as well not show up. This horse is that far ahead of the rest its scary!
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  • darkshinesdarkshines    2,837 posts
    said:

    If PHENOMENONS starts the other might as well not show up. This horse is that far ahead of the rest its scary!

    You could've said the same last start too DT . . .
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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    said:

    If PHENOMENONS starts the other might as well not show up. This horse is that far ahead of the rest its scary!

    Only beat the tiring Liquidation by 3/4 len, and he is many lengths off his best as he is being aimed at March/April and was for that run overweight. Phenomenons is a talented horse, but I'm unsure about being scary, as he didnt win the race in question.
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  • darkshinesdarkshines    2,837 posts
    said:

    said:

    If PHENOMENONS starts the other might as well not show up. This horse is that far ahead of the rest its scary!

    Only beat the tiring Liquidation by 3/4 len, and he is many lengths off his best as he is being aimed at March/April and was for that run overweight. Phenomenons is a talented horse, but I'm unsure about being scary, as he didnt win the race in question.
    This is true, but Liquidation had a 6L headstart and didn't go around a horse. I'd suggest Phenomenons is a much better animal than Liquidation even accounting for Liquidation being fat.
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  • BlakeBlake    8,176 posts
    second that motion.
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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    So this Saturday you should expect that Phenomenons should again finish in front of Liquidation ? But as the latter should be stripping fitter after that last run, it won't be as easy to run past as the last start ?
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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    Much rather be on Phenomenon aswell hit the line hard at every start - Liquidation not proven to get the trip yet
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  • StaticStatic    276 posts
    Phenomenons is a good horse but he hasn't beaten anything good. Can't remember the last time we saw these type of 3yos races have a full field of open chances. It will be interesting to see how he measures up to the victorian rivals if they run in the big races over the carnival.
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  • BlakeBlake    8,176 posts
    not sure about the depth this year just yet, think they're alright. at least they are competitive races and there's not one dominating. much the same across the country. i think e.i has helped this current bunch of 3yo's (at least in the east) to be strong and competitive as it didn't allow any of them to go anywhere or be sold off during that time. i think we're better for it.
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  • DarkDark    909 posts
    The horses ratings have been unbelievable, he prob would have gone below 33 last start if he wasnt 4 and 5 wide from the 800!

    If he gets a clear run this week he'll win in second gear imo
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  • MightAndPowerMightAndPower    4,148 posts
    Im in the phenomenons corner as well..doubt 57 will worry him and shouldnt be back last this start.
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  • JordanJordan    1,827 posts
    Phenomenons a class act and should account for them on Saturday but Derby day could be a different kettle of fish, most of these haven't been past 1800 so we don't who will stay and who won't. Is he too brilliant to stay the 2400, only time will tell??
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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    said:

    second that motion.

    ill cube that motion.
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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    Just a niggle of doubt for mine, so I will watch on as an interested spectator. Some very good betting contests on paper for Saturday, finding winners will not be easy.
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  • jetpilotjetpilot    59 posts
    said:

    said:

    said:

    If PHENOMENONS starts the other might as well not show up. This horse is that far ahead of the rest its scary!

    Only beat the tiring Liquidation by 3/4 len, and he is many lengths off his best as he is being aimed at March/April and was for that run overweight. Phenomenons is a talented horse, but I'm unsure about being scary, as he didnt win the race in question.
    This is true, but Liquidation had a 6L headstart and didn't go around a horse. I'd suggest Phenomenons is a much better animal than Liquidation even accounting for Liquidation being fat.
    liquidation is still fat and has barrier 17 on saturday so there is a good chance he wont beat phenomenons this saturday but i can bet you he will finsh in front of phenomenoms every start after!!!!!!!!!!! :evil:
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