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He is not a world beater by any standard, but I think today was his second two year old winner and his seventh overall. (might be wrong with that)
I don't have any business dealings with the Macalister family now, but it is good to see them getting results with their bull.
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Doubt he'ld move to sleepy old perth but might be the seachange he's after. could do far worse for a retained stable trainer
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Keep building that empire ;)
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Has a nice ring to it .Actually think I get it now
Don't mind me ,Night shift and lack of sleep catching up on me 8-}
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Whats the go with My Atacanta, he still in service? Havent seen many of his around although the ones i have seen look very nice.
Yeah he still standing. Service fee $750
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He is a third crop sire in Australia. Currently he is ranked at #31 (Universal Ruler is currently ranked #16 with three times as many winners, but that from more than three times as many runners).
Of his seven winners to date, two of them (My Naughty Blonde & Delicate Miss) were two year old winners. Four won as three year olds, and one as a four year old.
His first crop he has 27 named foals, for 13 raced with 4 of those winners. His second crop he has 17 named foals, for 5 raced and 2 winners. His current crop is just 12 named foals, for 3 raced so far and one winner. So he produces per season around what he has overall, 30% winners to runners, but that those figures improve as the horse gets past three years of age.
My Naughty Blonde out of a Verglas mare, crosses very well through MA's damsire Dayjur, when over Highest Honor the sire of Verglas. It produces stakes winners. Outside of that, there is no evidence of past success.
Brisanto out of a Scenic mare, has had limited success with Dayjur over Scenic mares, but more via Traditionally over Scenic and Sadlers Wells. Not numbers of great significance but reasonable.
Arlyah is the full sister to Brisanto proving the cross works.
My Allowance is out of a Surtee mare. There is no recorded winning information for this cross.
Delicate Miss is out of a Snippets mare. Dayjur over Snippets and Lunchtime, produce stakes winners at a fast rate. This cross has far more chance of success than not.
Mick's Tippin is out of a Speed Week mare. There is no recorded winning information for this cross.
Kronstadt is out of a Fasliyev mare. Traditionally over Nureyev has produced a stakes winner, and Dayjur has produced over Nureyev and Scenic mares.
Of his seven winners to date, four a fillies and three are geldings. So he has no apparent sex bias.
So in my opinion, those winners that have had some ancestral history of success, seemingly produces a better quality foal when covered by My Atacanta than those that are just a shot in the dark. However, he has produced across a broad spectrum of bloodlines, so I wouldn't be limiting his opportunities with anything less than substantiated fact. This is proven out by his most recent winner, My Naughty Blonde. You couldn't get a weaker family tree is you tried, but I think based on this win, she has brilliant prospects going forward.
So to the two points raised in this thread that I take small issue with. I can see no real issue with the quality of the mares he has covered because he seemingly upgrades even the ordinary ones as much as the so called better stock. The quality of the mare, her record at stud and her race record seemingly don't make a whole lot of difference either.
He gets winners just as easily from plain mares. His only real concern is the rate at which he does it. At 30% this is unacceptable at this point but the numbers can get better if he is supported. That doesn't seem to be happening, but that is not the stallions fault.
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Whilst she is enjoying racing - why not race her?
If you plan to sell her progeny, or her as a broodmare, ES black type is the way to go.
If you plan to race them yourself, as you no doubt know winning a race at Geraldton or Flemington makes absolutely no difference whatsoever to how fast her foals will run ;)
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roll the dice, mr. mac....
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12g family well like marasco , chance in time , elsie the eagle although this is a different line they all meet up around Minsk , my dear , where Brisanto is a different line still goes back to Luna and spilletta the dam of Eclipse
Can always go to stud next year.
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You would recall she was purchased with that intent.
Or at least a Juliet line to go with Maginifiso's Chelandry line ;-)
:D
Most of you guys posting on here are closely linked, but i suspect your uncertainty is real.
If i were ever lucky enough to have one that wants to keep going and has done so well so far, I'd be seriously tempted to look at some listed and group3 type races over east for a one off, 3 or 4 race campaign in the spring. If she does well and picks one up - or even places in one - then test the sales ring or go to the barn with her yourself.
Good spot to be in guys, hope success keeps flowing for you
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