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SPUDLEYSPUDLEY    1,584 posts
edited September 2012 West Australian Racing
When is PLAYER going to stop pretending to be a bookie either put pre-post betting on full fields on mid-week meetings or get out . Why can we not bet on mid-week racing on a Tuesday night. I got a tip thought I would check out it's price and find out they do not bet this early . FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE GROW SOME TESTICLES by tomorrow it will be $ 2.50, if you don't have a price assessor get in touch.
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  • GaryHGaryH    1,012 posts
    edited September 2012

    Spud, not one of the main corporates have fixed price for Belmont tomorrow!  So blasting Player won't help. 

    But, asking the question WHY they don't want to touch Perth racing with a pole may get some interesting reply's?  Maybe something about WA having too many "I've got a tip" races screwing them too many times?

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  • whitewashwhitewash    81 posts

    There's been many discussion about Player and the size of their testicles or lack of.

    Unfortunately I also agree with Gary H and it'll be a long time before pre post betting on Midweeks or Provincial's is introduced, if ever.

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  • goosegoose    1,638 posts
    What bookie would be stupid enough to bet pre post on Perth midweeks or provincial's?? no most are smarter than that.
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  • SPUDLEYSPUDLEY    1,584 posts
    Even on track at Belmont the bookies are all sheep gone are the days of a bookies who are prepared to take punters on
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  • RodentRodent    7,470 posts
    The earlier markets go up, the more time there is to "organise" things. I for one am happy that there are no early markets. It's no coincidence that I find it easier to win midweek.
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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    Player have improved their game out of sight after much early criticism.
    You can now get a decent bet on with them and they are competitive price wise. I cant see why you would expect them to bet a day earlier than any other agency.

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  • H-BOMBERH-BOMBER    10,567 posts
    I see that their Jockey challenge market only has B Patterson listed for some reason.

    Fail
    :-q
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  • CarlosaCarlosa    1,287 posts
    SPUDLEY said:

    Even on track at Belmont the bookies are all sheep gone are the days of a bookies who are prepared to take punters on


    WHy do you tihnk this is?  Hoenstly, bookies aren't stupid and when there are setups happening bookies go quiet.

    I tihnk Player are as soft as the next bloke, but I wont blame any bookie for shutting up shop when the jocks are under a wing...

    Unfortunately it is pretty prevelant in our State at the moment, so we all pay the price, bookies, regular punters, owners and trainers...etcetera

     

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  • CarlosaCarlosa    1,287 posts
    Rodent said:

    The earlier markets go up, the more time there is to "organise" things. I for one am happy that there are no early markets. It's no coincidence that I find it easier to win midweek.

    Agree completely!
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  • JordanJordan    1,827 posts

    I like the new cross code multi's where you can do up to 2 fixed horses & 2 fixed sports bets together and been told that they are bringing out fixed odds place multis very shortly

    :D
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  • SPUDLEYSPUDLEY    1,584 posts

    I am not having a crack at PLAYER or the bookies because of so called corruption I would just like to have a bet when the horse I have heard may go okay is at 25/1 or more instead of PLAYER putting up there market 20 minutes before a race and the horse is 8/1 and I am not having huge bets I just want a chance to get the best price possible.

    Plus all this talk of corruption and boat races is just that all talk if you read my comment from 23/9/2012 it should explain what is going on the problem is our current rating system

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  • LuckyLongshotsLuckyLongshots    4,270 posts
    edited September 2012
    SPUDLEY said:


     

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  • CarlosaCarlosa    1,287 posts
    Spudley - if the books thought there was nothing going on they'd happily open up early.  Ask yourself why they don't.  They ain't stupid.

    Even if it is only the "ratings system", do you still expect the books to open up and get pumped?

    What world are you living in??

    And you called me stupid - well call me stupid and I'll call you plain dumb.


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  • SPUDLEYSPUDLEY    1,584 posts
    Carlosa the only person who has mentioned the word stupid is you.  I did not call you it so get your facts right. Plus if you think all Perth racing is full of setups go to the stewards with all the details or if you think they are involved take your concerns to the Minister for Racing & Gaming 
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  • FastmoneyFastmoney    4,912 posts
    Player are now limiting some winning punters to a payout of $1000.

    That isn`t to win a $1000 but total return on the bet, eg $500 @ $2.00 or $100 @ $10.00.

    Limits aren`t because of other bets they are limits on winning punters.

    Seems like Player is headed down the same path as the corporates.

    Only a matter of time before they ban winners.
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  • TSSTSS    1,401 posts
    Hmm interesting. How do i accessbthe mobile site of this forum?ok.
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  • LuckyLongshotsLuckyLongshots    4,270 posts
    TSS said:

    Hmm interesting. How do i accessbthe mobile site of this forum?ok.

    I believe if you are on a mobile platform, the site automatically re-directs to a mobile version of the site - don't think there is a seperate mobile URL address (just checked and it is the same web address as the usual one)
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  • TSSTSS    1,401 posts
    I clicked on full web site using mobile mode but for the life of me I can not get it back to mobile mode.
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  • TSSTSS    1,401 posts

    I want player to offer fixed odds on every single race whether it's gallops, trots, or dogs.

     

    I'm doomed forever in normal mode. Can't get back to mobile mode on my mobile phone nooooooooo.

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  • LuckyLongshotsLuckyLongshots    4,270 posts
    TSS said:

    I'm doomed forever in normal mode. Can't get back to mobile mode on my mobile phone nooooooooo.



    Only suggestion until @Chris can help, is to clean the cache on your mobile phone browser and then come back to the site, maybe then it'll refresh with the mobile version.

    Otherwise Chris should be able to tell you how to reach the mobile site. ie. URL

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  • SLIPPERGOLDENSLIPPERGOLDEN    8,451 posts
    edited October 2012
    I am appalled at betting agencies who refuse bets or place ridiculous restrictions on your potential punting profits. These agencies are not exactly a lone bookie at Moora. Cancel the licences of these greedy gutless operators.
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  • RadmanRadman    1,992 posts
    Speaking of Moora Slip, I would assume you have studied the form hard for this Saturday and will be gracing us mortals with your tips?.... I plan on taking that lone bookie down!
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  • SLIPPERGOLDENSLIPPERGOLDEN    8,451 posts
    edited October 2012
    Thank you Radman for the invitation as well as the overestimation of my tipping ability.

    A family member once won a Moora Cup (tipped it to what appeared the whole of Moora and still got 5/1),. By the way normally 3 bookies at Moora... same as Northam these days

    Get on Cortona in the cup. Has changed stable and is good enough to win the cup.

    R4 Princess Finale can win 
    R5 Corolla at odds
    R8 Kincora on form should win
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  • TSSTSS    1,401 posts

    Cortona looks good without bar shoes. Thanks luckylongshots, ive tried your suggestion but to no avail.

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  • FastmoneyFastmoney    4,912 posts
    edited October 2012
    Player have changed their odds provider from Centrebet to Sportingbet.

    Looking at the prices offered, it appears Centrebet and Sportingbet are using each others prices (maybe have similar ownership).

    When Player offered prices from Centrebet, they were lesser odds than Centrebet eg. $4.00 with Centrebet was $3.75 with Player.

    Obviously this was to provide a better margin for Player and probably lessened the need for Player to limit or ban punters.

    Now Player offers the same prices as their odds provider.

    Since the odds provider change, in some markets Player has decided to limit winning punters to a maximum of a $1000 return per bet (which includes the actual bet).

    It seems a strange way to limit punters.

    The corporates generally limit punters by limiting what is won eg. no limit on what is wagered but a return limit of $600 (so they are happy for punters to invest large volume on short priced runners).

    So the corporates will accept a $1000 at $1.50 yet Player would only accept $650 for the same bet.

    The corporate approach seems to make more sense

    You have to wonder about the Player fixed odds decision makers that chose to limit punters this way.

    Also 1 of Ozbet`s biggest punters recently had his rebate capped by RWWA and has now moved 10`s of millions of parimutuel bets to Victab.

    Hope these decisions don`t affect the funding of the racing industry.

    Just read the bookmaker changes, not sure if both issues are linked but it seems those making these decisions don`t have a clue.



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  • Mary_hingeMary_hinge    40 posts
    Fastmoney said:

    Player have changed their odds provider from Centrebet to Sportingbet.

    Looking at the prices offered, it appears Centrebet and Sportingbet are using each others prices (maybe have similar ownership).

    When Player offered prices from Centrebet, they were lesser odds than Centrebet eg. $4.00 with Centrebet was $3.75 with Player.

    Obviously this was to provide a better margin for Player and probably lessened the need for Player to limit or ban punters.

    Now Player offers the same prices as their odds provider.

    Since the odds provider change, in some markets Player has decided to limit winning punters to a maximum of a $1000 return per bet (which includes the actual bet).

    It seems a strange way to limit punters.

    The corporates generally limit punters by limiting what is won eg. no limit on what is wagered but a return limit of $600 (so they are happy for punters to invest large volume on short priced runners).

    So the corporates will accept a $1000 at $1.50 yet Player would only accept $650 for the same bet.

    The corporate approach seems to make more sense

    You have to wonder about the Player fixed odds decision makers that chose to limit punters this way.

    Also 1 of Ozbet`s biggest punters recently had his rebate capped by RWWA and has now moved 10`s of millions of parimutuel bets to Victab.

    Hope these decisions don`t affect the funding of the racing industry.

    Just read the bookmaker changes, not sure if both issues are linked but it seems those making these decisions don`t have a clue.



    when was this announced - were is the media release or further information??

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  • FastmoneyFastmoney    4,912 posts
    What part do you think is going to be announced Mary?
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  • Mary_hingeMary_hinge    40 posts
    the change in fixed odds provider
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  • Mary_hingeMary_hinge    40 posts
    Sportingbet purchased Centrebet a few months ago so it probably doesnt make any difference it seems - must have slipped under my radar
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  • Mary_hingeMary_hinge    40 posts
    I wonder what the average WA punter would think if he knew his losses were going back to the UK.

    Bet local slogan is officially a joke
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