Campbell McCallum

scenic12 · June 2012

Does anyone know why he was taken off rides at Broome yesterday?

I have heard a serious rumour.

Nevershowsurprise · June 2012

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Does anyone know why he was taken off rides at Broome yesterday?

I have heard a serious rumour.

Allegedly tested positive

Radman · June 2012

Tested positve at Mondays trials from reports. Hearing to come.

RIO · June 2012

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Tested positve at Mondays trials from reports. Hearing to come.

I really hope that this report is as far off the mark as your confidence of harvey's getting a hatrick rad..

Sorry to say but social problem or not, the regular breach of the rules is a real concern and needs to be addressed by the association..(i said it last time and will repeat it again...that wont surprise most of you...sorry..!!!) whatever we are doing as an industry we are not doing enough to educate these apprentices about the drugs and the associated penalties and long term health problems they cause.. If we were we would not have any more of these situations.......

Very frustrating, maybe it is time to start suspending their masters if they return a positive test...radical but something radical needs to happen....IMO

Radman · June 2012

Haha, Harvey getting a treble, don't remember writing that RIO. Did pay $2.90 for a drum in the first and got $3.30 on his winner. Donga also had a nice winner so had a winning day (just). Would have been much better if Morning Mist had of won though. Thank you for your concern. :D

Hope I'm wrong on Campbell but I aint.

FYI, Campbell is not an apprentice.

RIO · June 2012

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Haha, Harvey getting a treble, don't remember writing that RIO. Did pay $2.90 for a drum in the first and got $3.30 on his winner. Donga also had a nice winner so had a winning day (just). Would have been much better if Morning Mist had of won though. Thank you for your concern. :D

Hope I'm wrong on Campbell but I aint.

FYI, Campbell is not an apprentice.

oops, :oops: :oops: sorry about that...

Radman · June 2012

All forgiven mate....we must not forget, You have NFI :D.

BTW. I will be at the track next Saturday to see the champ work.....might I see you there??

Unknown · June 2012

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All forgiven mate....we must not forget, You have NFI :D.

BTW. I will be at the track next Saturday to see the champ work.....might I see you there??

:lol:

RIO · June 2012

I forgot i have an out for all stupid statements from now on in!!!! :D

At this stage i should be there..will PM you closer to the day..May be the best run of the 3 this weekend...altho tuff to be better than the last one..

ICE · June 2012

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Tested positve at Mondays trials from reports. Hearing to come.
I really hope that this report is as far off the mark as your confidence of harvey's getting a hatrick rad..

Sorry to say but social problem or not, the regular breach of the rules is a real concern and needs to be addressed by the association..(i said it last time and will repeat it again...that wont surprise most of you...sorry..!!!) whatever we are doing as an industry we are not doing enough to educate these apprentices about the drugs and the associated penalties and long term health problems they cause.. If we were we would not have any more of these situations.......

Very frustrating, maybe it is time to start suspending their masters if they return a positive test...radical but something radical needs to happen....IMO

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:?: :!: 8) :lol:

BobbyDavis · June 2012

Some more news to come I hear, this time a female apprentice getting stung for a positive. Not much going on between the ears for a few of these riders!

motivated · June 2012

Its society....suspending masters is a silly idea really.

The kids need a bigger penalty to learn that it's not to be accepted under any circumstance. Give them 12 months and get to the real world and work for minimum wage...

That way they cant pay for their gear anymore, and will realise what the hell they have thrown away.

Radman · June 2012

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Some more news to come I hear, this time a female apprentice getting stung for a positive. Not much going on between the ears for a few of these riders!

Oh Dear :?

Yolo · June 2012

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Some more news to come I hear, this time a female apprentice getting stung for a positive. Not much going on between the ears for a few of these riders!

Who's the female?

RIO · June 2012

Hey motivated...as stated a radical suggestion....but maybe something to consider for repeat offenders.

Yes it is a society problem...but the area that it is being detected is in a workplace.Every work place i have been in that has a zero drug and alcohol policy has a two pronged attack to this sort of detection..Firstly, get the person drug free before they re-enter the work place...and secondly a education program of the dangers of drugs to the person and in the work place..

If as an industry we do that...i have a feeling that we aren't doing it well enough, cos the message isn't getting through..

I've been heavily involved in the youth/drug area in the past...and experience tells me that what works for one person, so often doesn't work for the next!!!! it's a messy situation, but when it happens to apprentices the regulatory body has to look for solutions to the problem..And with apprentices they should be given chance to be educated on the situation..if they re-offend...then as apprentices, they should be out of the industry...IMO

Rodent · June 2012

Ahhhhh what about the parents? Isn't it one of the most important responsibilities of a parent to educate their kids about the dangers associated with drugs and succumbing to peer group pressure?
I know I've done my best and set a good example. If my sons are stupid enough to ignore my lead and follow some other goose's example then more fool them. My boys are discouraged from hanging around no hopers and encouraged to hang around people of sound moral fibre who actually harbour healthy ambition.
What more can a parent do?
Unfortunately, my experience in the Sydney racing scene in the 80's left me with the impression that a huge number of young participants were indulging in drugs. I wouldn't let my boys anywhere near a stable. If one of them were determined to be a jockey, I'd have to get a trainers licence myself.
Of course, I don't want to cast any aspersions on the WA scene as I have no experience there. My experiences are restricted to Sydney.

sniper · June 2012

Unfortnately Rodent it is no different here, the younger generation are on a downhill spiral, fortunately the middle group of jocks are all level headed. The 30 -40 generation are all good workers with there futures all under control.

Radman · June 2012

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Unfortnately Rodent it is no different here, the younger generation are on a downhill spiral, fortunately the middle group of jocks are all level headed. The 30 -40 generation are all good workers with there futures all under control.

That 30 - 40 generation were young once and made mistakes to. Some had ability but stuffed up never to be heard of again, I'm sure we could all throw out some names.

Maybe it's just always been this way.....

sniper · June 2012

Yes think your correct, but not on the gear that's available now! Very sad and I don't know the answers, but gosh thy are throwing away some unbelievable opportunities.

DamienWyer · June 2012

They may be good workers with their riding futures under control, but many Jockeys apparently don't see past the immediate future when it comes to things such as superannuation and investments. I have had two discussions in recent weeks with both senior and junior riders, and they dispair at the lifestyle choices of even those who do work hard but don't have a plan for 20 years from now when their riding days are over.

Unknown · June 2012

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Some more news to come I hear, this time a female apprentice getting stung for a positive. Not much going on between the ears for a few of these riders!
Who's the female?

Melissa Milner she got 9 months

raconteur · June 2012

9 months and 7 months for trying to get other female to put he wee in for her!

BobbyDavis · June 2012

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Some more news to come I hear, this time a female apprentice getting stung for a positive. Not much going on between the ears for a few of these riders!
Who's the female?
Melissa Milner she got 9 months

Allegedly she was pinged before she was even riding but it got swept under the carpet :shock: :shock: :shock:
If thats true ---- shame, shame, shame.
How old is she? 18? Not very promising the future me thinks

Brubaker · June 2012

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Some more news to come I hear, this time a female apprentice getting stung for a positive. Not much going on between the ears for a few of these riders!
Who's the female?
Melissa Milner she got 9 months
Allegedly she was pinged before she was even riding but it got swept under the carpet :shock: :shock: :shock:
If thats true ---- shame, shame, shame.
How old is she? 18? Not very promising the future me thinks

Pretty soon there won't be any damn jocks left riding :roll:

RIO · June 2012

If this is the quality of person that are being selected by RWWA and trainers to be suitable for an apprenticeship....we may be better off with none..

Whoever is responsible for signing them on should be held responsible for their behavior..

Rodent suggested that some of this should be dropped back on their parents, and i agree with that in a social environment, but this is a work place, and whoever is responsible for them being in the work place should also be responsible for caring for their safety, well being and education. I know I'm sounding like a broken record, but apprentices are meant to be looked after by the person that signed them on and the association that allows them to be an apprentice...They don't appear to be doing a really good job at the moment from what i can see.......

However it isn't the majority of the apprentices, but it is regularly happening....probably too regularly :(

thefalcon · June 2012

do current apprentices live on the host trainers premises or do they live independently?
in the "old days" they were under a strict regime from the host trainer, plenty of stable chores, pocket money, the flicks on sat. night with an 11pm curfew.
try that on a kid these days!!! :roll:

WagonWheel · June 2012

Pay them the wage of a stablehand, and make them work the same hours as a stablehand, so #1 they can't afford any of that crap, and #2 they won't have time to go out and get so messy!

Honestly, how many people out there are actually lucky enough to be small enough to be a jockey? How many people would have given so much just for the opportunity these kids have? And here they are pissing it all away being stupid doing drugs! They could be so much more, the doors are right there and unlocked, all they have to do is open them, yet they choose to rub it in how easy they've got it, and they're ruining their own lives. They need to pull their heads in, deflate their egos a bit, and be realistic, put in the hard yards now, because one day, they'll be too heavy, with no other skills and have to get a real job.

Yolo · June 2012

Is anything official? What did he go for?

motivated · June 2012

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Pay them the wage of a stablehand, and make them work the same hours as a stablehand, so #1 they can't afford any of that crap, and #2 they won't have time to go out and get so messy!

Honestly, how many people out there are actually lucky enough to be small enough to be a jockey? How many people would have given so much just for the opportunity these kids have? And here they are pissing it all away being stupid doing drugs! They could be so much more, the doors are right there and unlocked, all they have to do is open them, yet they choose to rub it in how easy they've got it, and they're ruining their own lives. They need to pull their heads in, deflate their egos a bit, and be realistic, put in the hard yards now, because one day, they'll be too heavy, with no other skills and have to get a real job.

I do agree WagonWheel, but you will find apprentices are still on a very cheap rate. I think one reason the youth of today take the pilss/gear is because it is in fact cheaper. 1 pill and water for the night, good to go....ive never touched the stuff, but that seems to be how it is.

Racing game is not full of glamour and easy street though like some make it out to be. Tough industry. No excuse for drugs though.

obrienrb · June 2012

Falcon is right...as an outsider looking in being jockey is not a job, it is a lifestyle. The old ways should return. They should be eating,drinking,breathing,sleeping racing. Would produce more level headed quality race riders... When I did my a apprenticeship (not in racing obviously) I was with my boss all day 6 days a week doing nothing but work..can afford to relax more now!

DamienWyer · June 2012

My Gold club pro used to tell his two apprentices, one of whom has some ability but never got there, that fishing & f***ing were the only two things a professional golfer should do. Anything else would destroy what little chance they had.

This was of course prior to Tiger Woods, so for him maybe it was just fishing.

G'day Punter!

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