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Belmont Sat - 15th Aug

West Australian Racing
TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
edited November -1 West Australian Racing
Good meeting considering no feature race

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Deductions may apply Closes 18:57 Sat 15 Aug 2009 | Refresh


Sportsbet No. Runner Win Place
35954 COMIC HERO 3.90 1.64
35953 OROYA GOLD 4.00 1.66
35951 MCLURCH 4.40 1.75
35952 SUPERSCENIC 5.00 1.88
35960 SLEEPWALK 10.00 3.00
35963 METRO MISS 12.00 3.44
35955 FRIARS TOUCH 14.00 3.88
35961 ANOTHER CLANGER 16.00 4.33
35962 BEYOND DISPUTE 18.00 4.77
35956 REFLECTIVE STAR 18.00 4.77
35957 SENTENZA 26.00 6.55
35958 SKY DRAMA 51.00 12.11
35959 TEARINUPTHECOUNTRY 61.00 14.33
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  • ChrisChris    5,697 posts
    Is the poll a trick question?
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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    If Proart and Captain Woodrow defeat Hay List or either of them, it would rank as one of the biggest boilovers in losing favourites in Perth for a long time.

    I think he will blouse this field by upwards of 4 lengths.
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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    said:

    If Proart and Captain Woodrow defeat Hay List or either of them, it would rank as one of the biggest boilovers in losing favourites in Perth for a long time.

    I think he will blouse this field by upwards of 4 lengths.

    so if Tudor Lad wins - you wont be surprised :P
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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    He is the only one that I have a doubt over. At one time I thought this horse was really going to come on, but he just hasnt found that dynamic spark of his previous preparation.

    I think Hay List has only a few runs left here in Perth, I think he is up to the best in Melbourne in the Spring.
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  • onyaonya    339 posts
    Hay List has raced on tracks classed as GOOD. This run may see if he has a Walk on Water trick, or if he will need Floaties. :wink:
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  • rompzrompz    206 posts
    said:

    He is the only one that I have a doubt over. At one time I thought this horse was really going to come on, but he just hasnt found that dynamic spark of his previous preparation.

    I think Hay List has only a few runs left here in Perth, I think he is up to the best in Melbourne in the Spring.

    I must be missing something coz this horse has raced three times this prep for two wins and a nose second, I think he is a big chance of beating hay list but I wont be putting my house on it :)
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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    said:

    said:

    He is the only one that I have a doubt over. At one time I thought this horse was really going to come on, but he just hasnt found that dynamic spark of his previous preparation.

    I think Hay List has only a few runs left here in Perth, I think he is up to the best in Melbourne in the Spring.

    I must be missing something coz this horse has raced three times this prep for two wins and a nose second, I think he is a big chance of beating hay list but I wont be putting my house on it :)
    My comments are harsh because of the unfulfilled promise of this horse. He has been beaten by a couple of ordinary horses and his wins have been mostly against ordinary opposition.
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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    Unlike some other people I am yet to be sold on Hay List as a real top calibre galloper - a lot of the fields he has beaten have been lacking in depth and of course only 3yo company (Destroid who he only beat 3/4 length a classic example) - he has beaten them all very well but this race is a decent step up in class - there are proven stakes performers in Proart and Centrum amongst some very consistent gallopers.

    I think he probably should be favorite and if he beat these horses comprehensively then my opinion will change.

    I dont think he will be a betting proposition unless $3+ is available (which I highly doubt).

    PS- I am interested to see the blinkers come off, seems to indicate they will look for a sit in the field.
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  • dungydungy    9,278 posts
    probably will have to sit i reckon Della beacuse of Centrum inside him and also Cool as hell and On the Carpet so reckon hlooking for a bit of cover and i think Tudor Lad is a chance but wont be punting him a record of 7 starts 4 wins 3 2nds aint that Shabby love to having him chewing grass in the backyard IMO-
    1-Impr Jeuney
    2-Kasabian /Cohort
    3-Hay List
    4-Portrait Lass
    5-Decryptor
    6-Zuytdorp
    8-Comic Hero [jockey change interesting ????? but good IMO-]

    Jock challenge
    W Pike or Donga Odonnell

    Good punting everyone have a nice weekend
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  • littleboybluelittleboyblue    454 posts
    1st up WA R7 SPARTAN IDOL- JUSTIN PARSONS ( sorry fear this).

    Last start winner at Wagga : 0-77Hcp In July. Competitive Metro Winning Sprinter

    $11000 Sold



    Rated 63. Always puts in. Great style of a horse, clean as a whistle, both in the legs and wind. No vices. Very hardy, robust animal. Loves the wet. Metro winner - Morphetville, also in the wet. Genuine sale - Owner/Trainer has taken up a private training job interstate so selling most of his stock. Will do well any where interstate
    was R Jolly.
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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    said:

    probably will have to sit i reckon Della beacuse of Centrum inside him and also Cool as hell and On the Carpet so reckon hlooking for a bit of cover and i think Tudor Lad is a chance but wont be punting him a record of 7 starts 4 wins 3 2nds aint that Shabby love to having him chewing grass in the backyard IMO-
    1-Impr Jeuney
    2-Kasabian /Cohort
    3-Hay List
    4-Portrait Lass
    5-Decryptor
    6-Zuytdorp
    8-Comic Hero [jockey change interesting ????? but good IMO-]

    Jock challenge
    W Pike or Donga Odonnell

    Good punting everyone have a nice weekend

    Dungy - you think Decryptor and Zuytdorp will get there trips this time ?? both have failed in the past
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  • HenleyBrookHenleyBrook    408 posts
    Hay List will win this comprehensively.
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  • bartfargbartfarg    667 posts
    Della 'not yet sold' is fair enough given the starts to date, but the wraps close to camp are huge. Trainer has awesome record and seems to know when they are up to it. Take on trust that he has some ticker :wink: This will be his biggets test (yet).
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  • darkshinesdarkshines    2,837 posts
    Don't get excited much about animals these days, but Hay List excites me. 600kg and can put em down that fast - put simply he is a freak.

    Par would be a 3L win. IMHO in time he will have DV, DT, DB, MMM and maybe even SB covered.
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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    said:

    Don't get excited much about animals these days, but Hay List excites me. 600kg and can put em down that fast - put simply he is a freak.

    Par would be a 3L win. IMHO in time he will have DV, DT, DB, MMM and maybe even SB covered.

    Big call ...
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  • darkshinesdarkshines    2,837 posts
    Darn right. I am a massive massive wrap on the horse.
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  • TheFunksterTheFunkster    3,840 posts
    Best Bets:
    Hay List - potential Railway horse, impressive looking animal :!:
    Black Print - finally given a week off last week to recover from his first 3 starts in 15 days. We should see the real Black Print this week.
    Only slight concern about both is possible wet track.

    Best each-way:
    Viking Legend in the Run to the Rose in Sydney. Should be nice odds.

    Good Luck!
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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    PLAYER MARKET - RACE 2

    Kasabian 89524 1.85 1.14 $ $
    Cohort 45310 3.80 1.46 $ $
    Black Habit 65987 7.00 2.00 $ $
    Late Night Flight 89528 7.50 2.05 $ $
    Marine Drive 51466 8.00 2.15 $ $
    Dvoryan 91835 10.00 2.50 $ $
    Dress Suit 51449 26.00 5.00 $ $
    Youlwin 89529 41.00 7.50 $
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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    I'm sold Hay List. Very smart animal.
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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    Hay List is scaring them off - Centrum, Grey Monarch and Secret Enigma all scratched :shock:
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  • DarkDark    909 posts
    said:

    Don't get excited much about animals these days, but Hay List excites me. 600kg and can put em down that fast - put simply he is a freak.

    Par would be a 3L win. IMHO in time he will have DV, DT, DB, MMM and maybe even SB covered.

    Damn straight, he is one serious race horse. Although unproven, certainly time will show he'll have them covered over 1200m+

    He certainly wouldnt have DT covered over 1000 - 1200 :)

    He would lead this field if he wanted. He will make an absolute mess of them either way.
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  • darkshinesdarkshines    2,837 posts
    said:

    Hay List is scaring them off - Centrum, Grey Monarch and Secret Enigma all scratched :shock:

    Gee thats dissapointing, not that it will matter to his price because he'll be short anyway, but it would've been good to size up the margin against Centrum to get a guide on him.
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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    said:

    said:

    Hay List is scaring them off - Centrum, Grey Monarch and Secret Enigma all scratched :shock:

    Gee thats dissapointing, not that it will matter to his price because he'll be short anyway, but it would've been good to size up the margin against Centrum to get a guide on him.
    May not assist tommorrow but with some doubt over his head against questionable stock, his next race against top quality may be at a better price for the punter. I can't see him being much more than starting at $2.00 and expect odds on
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  • dungydungy    9,278 posts
    Fair point Del regarding Zutdorp and Decryptor getting the trip but with the right runs and they both have drawn well will be hard to beat also Decryptor loves the sting out of the deck .
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  • onyaonya    339 posts
    said:

    Hay List is scaring them off - Centrum, Grey Monarch and Secret Enigma all scratched :shock:

    20% less of the field to have to go round, but also 20% less excuses if he does not pull it off. Now it is getting interesting. :roll:
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  • aaronaprilaaronapril    25 posts
    This conversation is starting to sound like the one before Phenomenons took on older horses for the first time. :wink:
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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    phenoms started from a dingy in the river though.........in fairness.
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  • FearThisFearThis    354 posts
    said:

    1st up WA R7 SPARTAN IDOL- JUSTIN PARSONS ( sorry fear this).

    Little Boy Blue- you don't miss a trick!! :lol: :lol:
    It wasn't R. Jolly- it is Adrian aka Charlie Witt - moved somewhere here in WA at a stud down near Margaret River so i am told.

    Horse won at Morphetville. And he CAN walk on water.. hope it keeps on raining and he remembers which direction he's going. Hard field but interesting to see how horse runs. He only been here 21 days... 8) 8)
    See you there maybe?

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  • Famous1Famous1    551 posts
    Anyone like anything in the quaddie legs

    I agree, Black Print very hard to beat...
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  • rot8inrot8in    1,881 posts
    pending pace ....and price im happy with Tudor lad 1200..final 600 in 33.87 should be better value..but hay list will be hard to beat
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