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A J Scahill Stakes

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  • rustyhrustyh    2,275 posts
    said:

    said:

    Hahaha no Linc.

    A Digby Morrell (not sure how it is spelt), bald bloke used to play shockingly bad footy for North Melbourne. Morrell = moral. Pretty lame really but still used by my good self.

    I'll pay it mate.

    My brother and I have a hatfull of them that no one would understand, and they are so far removed from what they started out as--we have no idea how we actually came up with them in the 1st place.
    Boys i have a ripper that i still use from 20 years ago.

    "Plugger the Zsa Zsa"

    Anyone want to have a crack at decoding it before i tell ya's?
  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts
    Something to do with Lockett hitting a cop ?
  • LuckyLongshotsLuckyLongshots    4,270 posts
    said:

    Need a quintet ticket for this one. Back the 5, for first 5, in order.

    Concensus appears to be :
    Takeover Target
    Tarzi
    then..........?

    According to the racebook - Selections: TAKEOVER TARGET- ROYAL LOTT- SCENIC SHOT- HARTLEYS DREAM
    Lucky Longshots: TARZI

    What a joke! Tarzi to effectively run last!

    His form is the best in the race outside TT

    TT
    Tarzi
    Royal Lott
    Scenic Shot
    Hartley's Dream

    That's how I see them finishing, Royal Lott more suited to the 1400m than SS
  • rompzrompz    206 posts
    TT to win but i like hartleys to get up into a place
  • rustyhrustyh    2,275 posts
    :D :D :D
    "Plugger the Zsa Zsa"

    Tony Lockett......Zsa Zsa Gabor

    Plugga........'lockett'
    Gabor.........'door'

    "Lock the Door"

    When someone gets out of my car , i always say ......"plugga the zsa zsa",
    which means 'lock the door'!
    :D :lol: :lol: :lol:
  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts
    said:

    Need a quintet ticket for this one. Back the 5, for first 5, in order.

    Concensus appears to be :
    Takeover Target
    Tarzi
    then..........?

    Going to go wide for some value.
    Scenic Shot
    Tarzi
    Takeover Target
    Hartleys Dream
    Royal Lott
  • careycarey    6,424 posts
    said:

    $1.40......too easy.

    yes people that say too short, need to think again in cases such as this.
    statistically horses of tt calibre against that lot would win far more often than
    71% of time, so it's a very good bet
    lots of 1.5 on bf too makes it even better.
  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    Just for the sake of saying it one more time, in case anyone in authority at Perth Racing is listening, the crowds are woeful.

    There is almost no organised sports on today at the highest or paying level in Perth, no footy, no cricket, no golf. So in other words, you had no competition today for spectators.

    Today there would not have been more than 3,000 on course. To see a World Class Champion no less.

    This is no way is to lay blame on the heads of employee's of Perth Racing, they have a Chairman and a CEO to carry that responsibility. This aspect alone has been the biggest disappointment for myself as a Member of the Turf Club.
  • answer is simple, open the gates and let people in for free
  • RodentRodent    7,446 posts
    said:

    Just for the sake of saying it one more time, in case anyone in authority at Perth Racing is listening, the crowds are woeful.

    There is almost no organised sports on today at the highest or paying level in Perth, no footy, no cricket, no golf. So in other words, you had no competition today for spectators.

    Today there would not have been more than 3,000 on course. To see a World Class Champion no less.

    This is no way is to lay blame on the heads of employee's of Perth Racing, they have a Chairman and a CEO to carry that responsibility. This aspect alone has been the biggest disappointment for myself as a Member of the Turf Club.

    Tete, I have a sure fire way to get 50,000 to the races. Ban all internet betting, close down the TAB, close down Sky Channel, get rid of the casino etc. Make it so that the only way you can see the races and have a bet is on course. After all, this was the racing landscape of yesteryear when racing was king and crowds huge.
    I used to attend race meetings 4 days a week and travel as far as 5 hours by car from Sydney. I once flew to Wagga for the day to punt. Why? Well for starters, there was no SKY. If I wanted to see them, I had to be on course. Also, if I wanted access to bookies/prices I had to be on course. I now turn over much more money yet basically haven't been to the races for 8 years.
    Getting "crowds" should be kept in perspective. Racing needs the odd promotional day to try and get new blood but we shouldn't get hung up on crowds. Betting turnover is the true measure of how healthy the product is. We need to cultivate punters moreso than racecourse attendees.
  • dungydungy    9,278 posts
    My old mate PB is spot on OPEN THE BLOODY GATES FREE ENTRY ,but in all honesty who really cares how many were there we babbled on for a week last time on this same stupid subject !!! for those who didnt go they missed out on seeing the worlds greatest sprinter!!!
  • doctorgollydoctorgolly    25 posts
    dont forget there are alot of christmas partys on this time of year, I thought the crowd wasn't too bad!!
  • JackJack    5 posts
    Yeh, Marasco nice looking animal,,, very average runner for a so called super star. :roll:
  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    said:

    said:

    Just for the sake of saying it one more time, in case anyone in authority at Perth Racing is listening, the crowds are woeful.

    There is almost no organised sports on today at the highest or paying level in Perth, no footy, no cricket, no golf. So in other words, you had no competition today for spectators.

    Today there would not have been more than 3,000 on course. To see a World Class Champion no less.

    This is no way is to lay blame on the heads of employee's of Perth Racing, they have a Chairman and a CEO to carry that responsibility. This aspect alone has been the biggest disappointment for myself as a Member of the Turf Club.

    Tete, I have a sure fire way to get 50,000 to the races. Ban all internet betting, close down the TAB, close down Sky Channel, get rid of the casino etc. Make it so that the only way you can see the races and have a bet is on course. After all, this was the racing landscape of yesteryear when racing was king and crowds huge.
    I used to attend race meetings 4 days a week and travel as far as 5 hours by car from Sydney. I once flew to Wagga for the day to punt. Why? Well for starters, there was no SKY. If I wanted to see them, I had to be on course. Also, if I wanted access to bookies/prices I had to be on course. I now turn over much more money yet basically haven't been to the races for 8 years.
    Getting "crowds" should be kept in perspective. Racing needs the odd promotional day to try and get new blood but we shouldn't get hung up on crowds. Betting turnover is the true measure of how healthy the product is. We need to cultivate punters moreso than racecourse attendees.
    Yes the World has moved on, but Football betting both codes doesn't impact on crowd attendances ??

    I think you can have both.

    Just don't remove their spleen in the process !
  • lordwaterlordwater    1,127 posts
    said:

    said:

    Just for the sake of saying it one more time, in case anyone in authority at Perth Racing is listening, the crowds are woeful.

    There is almost no organised sports on today at the highest or paying level in Perth, no footy, no cricket, no golf. So in other words, you had no competition today for spectators.

    Today there would not have been more than 3,000 on course. To see a World Class Champion no less.

    This is no way is to lay blame on the heads of employee's of Perth Racing, they have a Chairman and a CEO to carry that responsibility. This aspect alone has been the biggest disappointment for myself as a Member of the Turf Club.

    Tete, I have a sure fire way to get 50,000 to the races. Ban all internet betting, close down the TAB, close down Sky Channel, get rid of the casino etc. Make it so that the only way you can see the races and have a bet is on course. After all, this was the racing landscape of yesteryear when racing was king and crowds huge.
    I used to attend race meetings 4 days a week and travel as far as 5 hours by car from Sydney. I once flew to Wagga for the day to punt. Why? Well for starters, there was no SKY. If I wanted to see them, I had to be on course. Also, if I wanted access to bookies/prices I had to be on course. I now turn over much more money yet basically haven't been to the races for 8 years.
    Getting "crowds" should be kept in perspective. Racing needs the odd promotional day to try and get new blood but we shouldn't get hung up on crowds. Betting turnover is the true measure of how healthy the product is. We need to cultivate punters moreso than racecourse attendees.
    NO WAY. Don't close the TAB.The day it opened was when Australian Racing came of age. Besides that we would have to go back to back alley's to bet with SP bookie. NO WAY as I am to old to go jumping backyard fences, to get away from the coppers. Great memories but we keep the TAB. 8) :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
  • tonytony    2,436 posts
    Tete, your comparison with football is ridiculoue.

    95% of racing supporters are punters and if there was no betting would not be interested.

    95% of football supporters are football supporters and would be supporters whether or not there is betting and also in general the games are not telecast against the gate unless there is a prior sellout,
  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    Let me explain it another way.

    Nobody goes to the Races. Cashflow dries up. Top up of prize money disappears. Races go back to $45,00 at first on a Saturday, at first, then reduce again. Feature Races get cut by 10% top up fund. No more travelling interstate horses as the money is no longer the appeal. Standard becomes just what is going around in Perth. Bookmakers ring on course gets even smaller due to poor turnover. On course facilities get progressively shut down due to high overhead operating costs and no attendances. Trainers facilities don't get upgraded more than once a decade, if that. Owners start to believe the hype that they have one good enough to compete in the East, and get smashed by reality. WA becomes a back water joke. Turf Club starts to remove essential services and real people lose their jobs.

    One thing goes up. The current 75% of all monies wagered in WA on Interstate Races, goes up with the total lack of local standard. With the talked about payment for product, income dries up for the WA TAB and Industry Stakeholders at an alarming rate.

    Now I know that to the majority of people on here posting, this means nothing, because you can still wander down to your local TAB anywhere in the Country and have a bet. You don't even have to leave home these days. You never have to set foot on a course again. It's not your problem. But several people on here are smart enough to know that a strong vibrant Racing Community needs on course patrons. It is what makes the event.

    I'm probably wasting time and energy trotting this out each week of this Carnival. The Racing has been mostly of a high standard, some even worthy of etching into the memory for a lifetime.

    Imagine how hollow, how gut wrenching it would have been to Joe Janiak to be making those two speeches to an entirely empty grandstand.

    That's not how I want this to finish.
  • said:

    answer is simple, open the gates and let people in for free

    yes, you'd be surprised how many ppl i know of that aren't major punters that if they know its free entry to the track 9 times outta 10 would attend a day at the races for free entry, then obvioussly word of mouth gets around aswell as the advertising by perth racing and wooshka that will double the crowd attendance imo
  • Hows the betting turnover been for the carnival? Do we know?
    I had a runner yesterday at Pinjarra, had a bit on EW on the phone account and watched it at home in the air conditioning.
    Crowds arn't the be all and end all of racing. People still own horses, have a punt, enjoy the game but don't attend. I hate the crowds at carnivals, i love horse racing.
    I had one run on Perth cup day, hated it. I walked down the track to the mounting yard, watched from the mounting yard and walked back down the track to the stalls.
    I wouldn't get too hung up on the lack of crowds at the races, when most of the income comes from turnover.
  • rompzrompz    206 posts
    they should take some advice from the trots at gp free most nights and also having the half price food and drinks always helps also , im not one for lots of crowds so i enjoyed goin to watch the racing this time , all the money comes from the tab now. so even if no one was at course they will still race there prize money wont drop coz of lower crouds at ascot thats for sure
  • bartfargbartfarg    667 posts
    why have the horses that ran in the Scahill not been re-rated? It has been 3.5 days since the race!
  • PhilbyPhilby    257 posts
    some good reading is available as to why the marketing teams have failed over many years to bring crowds back to the track. there is a public stigma which is hard to erase that horse racing is gambling, so it must be bad. whereas poker, betting on the footy or buying lotto are deemed socially acceptable.

    for racing to move ahead and attract new players it must change the public perception.
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