TEAM WILLIAMS IN A HOLDING PATTERN

Buddy123 · February 18

See Pike over east on Watch Me Rock..
Trainer Mark Walker. Trimmed into $6s..

Thoroly_Bread · February 19

They brought at least one I say today so they must be half confident to keep buying.

AbbysAce · February 19

Thoroly_Bread said:
They brought at least one I say today so they must be half confident to keep buying.

Do you think it would look bad if they brought none?

How many did they buy, day 1 last year?

DamienWyer · February 19

AbbysAce said:

Thoroly_Bread said:
They brought at least one I say today so they must be half confident to keep buying.
Do you think it would look bad if they brought none?

How many did they buy, day 1 last year?

2025 3 Lots for $490,000

2024 3 Lots for $365,000

2023 7 Lots for $1,032,500

2022 3 Lots for $345,000

Gold Coast

2026 4 Lots for $835,000

Grant & Alana don't exclusively shop in WA but they are a big fish

scenic11 · February 19

DamienWyer said:

AbbysAce said:

Thoroly_Bread said:
They brought at least one I say today so they must be half confident to keep buying.
Do you think it would look bad if they brought none?

How many did they buy, day 1 last year?
2025 3 Lots for $490,000

2024 3 Lots for $365,000

2023 7 Lots for $1,032,500

2022 3 Lots for $345,000

Gold Coast

2026 4 Lots for $835,000

Grant & Alana don't exclusively shop in WA but they are a big fish

Yes but as the old saying goes "the biggest fish in the river gets that way by never getting caught"

Thoroly_Bread · February 22

So are Grant and Alana training again.

FairCraic69 · February 22

Yes Thoroly and training winners have you been in a Coma

DamienWyer · March 10

Thoroughbred stewards’ inquiry – Training Partnership Grant and Al ana Williams
(STARRY HEIGHTS)
The Racing Penalties Appeal Tribunal (RPAT) today heard submissions in relation to the Notice
of Appeal filed by Grant and Alana Williams on 5 February 2026.
The appeal seeks to overturn an order made by Racing and Wagering Western Australia
Stewards to suspend their training licences (‘Suspension Order’) under Local Rule 22, pending
the determination of a charge under Rule 240(2).
On 16 February 2026, RPAT granted a stay of the Suspension Order, which was due to expire
at 4.00pm today, 10 March 2026.
Following today’s submissions, RPAT reserved its decision and extended the stay to continue
until the determination of the appeal.

lick · March 10

ffs what does that mean.

DamienWyer · March 10

lick said:
ffs what does that mean.

well I think it means they had set a deadline and then to find out that Stewards still don;t know what to do.

It is a head shaker

JayJay · March 10

What it means is that the three person Racing Appeals Tribunal took submissions from the appellants (lawyer) and the Stewards and reserved their decision. They will deliberate further.

Meanwhile the stay against the invocation of rule 22 that was granted on February 16th and which was due to expire today, has been extended until they conclude their deliberations. They are free to keep training until then.

Pretty standard procedure I would have thought, and perfectly clear..

Rodent · March 11

So they could be stopped from training as soon as the Appeals tribunal hands down its decision or be allowed to train until a verdict on their charges is arrived at.

JimmyPop · March 11

Justice delayed is justice denied.

JayJay · March 11

If RPAT upholds their appeal against the invocation of rule 22, that would automatically free them up to continue training until the charges laid under rule 242 are determined.

If RPAT dismiss the appeal against rule 22, then their licenses are once again on hold (can't train) until the 242 breach charge is determined.

GLAMOUR · March 11

Probably letting them sweat on it for another week or 2 then it will be swept under carpet,only winner is there lawyers.

DamienWyer · April 24

How long is a piece of string? This is getting ridiculous

Thoroughbred stewards’ inquiry – Training Partnership Grant and Alana Williams
(STARRY HEIGHTS)

The resumption of a Racing WA Stewards’ inquiry involving Mr Grant and Mrs Alana Williams
has been adjourned at the request of their legal counsel.
The inquiry was scheduled to resume on 21 April 2026 to admit a plea to a charge issued on 29
January 2026 under AR 240(2). However, it was adjourned to allow additional time for the
completion of an expert report.
Racing WA Stewards had previously responded to requests for additional information from
Williams’ legal counsel in February 2026, with analytical data from both laboratories made
available on 19 March 2026.
Racing WA Stewards’ have advised that it is their intention to proceed to hear the matter on a
date to be determined no later than 29 May 2026, and that any expert report(s) intended to be
relied upon should be filed by no later than 12 May 2026.

The decision of the Racing Penalties Appeal Tribunal (RPAT) with respect to the appeal against
the Stewards’ suspension of their training licences, pursuant to Local Rule 22 remains pending,
with the stay of proceedings granted by RPAT continuing to apply pending determination.

ENDS

Thrawn · April 25

DamienWyer said:
How long is a piece of string? This is getting ridiculous

Thoroughbred stewards’ inquiry – Training Partnership Grant and Alana Williams
(STARRY HEIGHTS)

The resumption of a Racing WA Stewards’ inquiry involving Mr Grant and Mrs Alana Williams
has been adjourned at the request of their legal counsel.
The inquiry was scheduled to resume on 21 April 2026 to admit a plea to a charge issued on 29
January 2026 under AR 240(2). However, it was adjourned to allow additional time for the
completion of an expert report.
Racing WA Stewards had previously responded to requests for additional information from
Williams’ legal counsel in February 2026, with analytical data from both laboratories made
available on 19 March 2026.
Racing WA Stewards’ have advised that it is their intention to proceed to hear the matter on a
date to be determined no later than 29 May 2026, and that any expert report(s) intended to be
relied upon should be filed by no later than 12 May 2026.

The decision of the Racing Penalties Appeal Tribunal (RPAT) with respect to the appeal against
the Stewards’ suspension of their training licences, pursuant to Local Rule 22 remains pending,
with the stay of proceedings granted by RPAT continuing to apply pending determination.

ENDS

Lawyers doing what they do best. Playing games and wasting time.

Meanwhile owners who have trainers who have not done anything wrong have their results and potential prizemoney affected by parties who could have been found guilty months ago.

DamienWyer · May 14

I believe this matter will not be concluded prior to 29 May.

My thoughts are that a further stay of proceedings will be issued.

Thrawn · May 14

DamienWyer said:
I believe this matter will not be concluded prior to 29 May.

My thoughts are that a further stay of proceedings will be issued.

This saga is ridiculous if that is the case. 4 months after the original charge and still no finding. Stewards looking exceedingly weak if this drags on. Tail is wagging the dog here.

Flanders · May 14

DamienWyer said:
I believe this matter will not be concluded prior to 29 May.

My thoughts are that a further stay of proceedings will be issued.

Little wonder Williams' are dragging this out- MASSIVE volume of horses trialling recently - they are going to kill the pig whilst they can string it out as long as possible.
In the meantime they will make the stewards look like they are their b!tche$ by continuing to get stays.
Back in the day the stewards were something to be feared. Not anymore it seems

Rodent · May 14

Perhaps they should offer reduced sentences for early guilty pleas? At least that way, you'd only fight it if you were actually innocent instead of playing silly buggers.

Godd · May 18

Perth racing an absolute laughing stock. How is this still on going ? A horse in their care which broke down and was euthanised tested positive to a category A banned substance . What am I missing ?
Whilst this is being dragged out they are cashing in on all the stake money whilst they should be suspended . Wonder if any owners or trainers will sue when it all finally gets sorted and they cop their 2 years . As they should have been suspended already

Missymoo1 · May 22

banned and prohibited substances in blood and urine are specifically set at a level high enough such that there can be no reasonable doubt that the level of the substance prohibited meets that which would be deliberately administered for the horse to gain a competitive advantage.

This is done to eliminate the "accidental/incidental" administration defence.

It is not physically possible for a horse to test positive for the metabolised ritalin by being touched by someone taking the medication, nor by accidentally ingesting a single human sized tablet.

In effect, there is no doubt that the horse has been deliberately administered ritalin for performance enhancing purposes when the results come back positive when a threshold has been set in such a manner. This is what has been done with cobalt in the past previously.

Thrawn said:

AbbysAce said:
Has it been mentioned the level that was detected in the horse?

I havent seen it mentioned.

Maybe the level was high eliminating the chance of getting it through a stablehand.

Typically the trigger thresholds for testing for banned and prohibited substances in blood and urine are specifically set at a level high enough such that there can be no reasonable doubt that the level of the substance prohibited meets that which would be deliberately administered for the horse to gain a competitive advantage.

This is done to eliminate the "accidental/incidental" administration defence.

It is not physically possible for a horse to test positive for the metabolised ritalin by being touched by someone taking the medication, nor by accidentally ingesting a single human sized tablet.

In effect, there is no doubt that the horse has been deliberately administered ritalin for performance enhancing purposes when the results come back positive when a threshold has been set in such a manner. This is what has been done with cobalt in the past previously.

Time frame for Methylphenidate to metabolise into ritalinic acid should form the backbone of the enquiry

Missymoo1 · May 22

Best trainers in WA and they’ve already suffered enough with all the negative publicity. Hope they only get a fine. This would never have happened over East. They would have copped a fine and moved on. All the other trainers hoping they get disqualified are just jealous because they don’t train as good. With drug testing being far more refined now, there will be more positive swabs to come to human medications. Grant and Alana are swabbed more than any other trainers due to their results so how come this is their first positive?

madface · May 22

Best trainers dont cheat

Pinballwizard · May 22

Missymoo1 said:
Best trainers in WA and they’ve already suffered enough with all the negative publicity. Hope they only get a fine. This would never have happened over East. They would have copped a fine and moved on. All the other trainers hoping they get disqualified are just jealous because they don’t train as good. With drug testing being far more refined now, there will be more positive swabs to come to human medications. Grant and Alana are swabbed more than any other trainers due to their results so how come this is their first positive?

Not their first positive. At least 2 previous

Missymoo1 · May 23

Pinball Wizard - The Arsenic was from fence posts and plenty of others had the same. What’s the other one??

Missymoo1 · May 23

Madface. They don’t. Just better at what they do

Rodent · May 23

Brock Lewthwaite was better than Peter Fernie once =))

madface · May 23

Missymoo1 said:
Pinball Wizard - The Arsenic was from fence posts and plenty of others had the same. What’s the other one??

10i do recall 2 previous stable foremans ttaking the blame and both were disqualified

G'day Punter!

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