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Markovina · December 2025

JayJay said:
No, JayJay didn't say that at all, nothing of the sort. If the members decided to sell GP "lock, stock and barrel", the distribution of the funds is up to the members.

Having sold the venue, members may then decide to build a new track or give the money to another existing track or club or buy a large cruise ship and go around the world. It would be up to them. There would be no requirement for them to spend the money on Harness Racing.

It would take Ministerial Intervention, I don't know, resumption powers or rezoning or whatever, to resume the land prior to the sale for the government to have the option of redirecting sale proceeds to harness.

In order to sell, 2/3 of the membership must vote in a referendum (around 200 members on latest figures) and there must be at least 50% (around 100 members) in favour of selling, of those who voted.

If the members then decided to dissolve the Association, the Bylaws state that the Supreme Court would decide on the allocation of the funds.

Ok then the Supreme Court , and your informed opinion where do you think the Supreme Court would direct the money to go to , i would say Harness Racing - youd probably say they will bail out Dr Phil !!!!!

And this stupid poxxy members GP club is a typical example of Western feucken Australia , a state with all this wealth , yet it couldnt organize a riot

WA Racing industry in such a diabolical state , with all the wealth the state has it should be leading the way in Aust in racing , and the Medical/hospital system in WA which ive had a bit to do it with , well it is a carbon copy of the racing industry , an antiquated , ratshiit 10th world set up

savethegame · December 2025

Harness Racing to return to Clifford Park,Toowoomba after 23 years.

Markovina · December 2025

I see Michael Tenardi won another race yesterday in NSW this time at Wagga , it was $31 but it was in a slippery field , came from last at the top of the straight - even though Wagga is a big track you dont see many do that their , its form prior was very sound in slick mile rates so it wasnt impossible yesterday

Markovina · December 2025

Holiday period so you have a bit of time up your sleeve

So just googling re Trotting , that Four Legged Lottery is it that Goose from Sydney

Im not a subsciber and never will be , but theres a couple of articles , does he get stuck into Rocket , the headlings aernt too flash , and the couple of line preview of what he says is even worse

And there is even a thread title in bold capital letters JAY JAY - and does he give old Jay Jay a withering spray - hah

warrenrobinson · December 2025

I'm no subscriber but one thing i do know he bases his views on facts.

Frog · December 2025

The NR and programmer is based around broken down

,old horses racing twice a week with no future homes to

go to so just keep running them. Good business model

for some but buying high price horses quality horses is

gone as they reach FFT class to quick to get your money

and there is only one winner every year of the big races.

The days of high quality NZ or Vic coming , the NR system

has made it $5000 horses from country NSW and outer VIC

bringing the racing standards down. Then the problem of

getting rid of these horses which are lucky to be worth 1 or

2 months training fees , but only get rid of the on 50/50

or when they get there every last drop of blood from them.

Yes its worth the risk when you can run on a Friday night

for $21k or $23k, then make it someone else problem to

get rid of it. ITS CALLED A NEGATIVE LOOP.

Unless something changes.

Frog · December 2025

FFA horses don't run around for 4 to 5 there

worth every week, its a broken system, just

imagine SYD or MELB racing doing this ?

Turnover is not based on prize money.

warrenrobinson · December 2025

The NR system is certainly better than the corrupt HWOE but it's not the savior most people are looking for. If you don't have integrity and a handicap system that actually handicaps the numbers will continually fall. As a industry we need to refresh not continue down the path of recycling.

Rocket_Reign · December 2025

warrenrobinson said:
I'm no subscriber but one thing i do know he bases his views on facts.

Hahaha he does not you fool, constantly calls me a drug cheat, no one’s horses get swabbed more than mine and I never have and never will get a positive swab

warrenrobinson · December 2025

Life is so predictable at times.

JayJay · December 2025

Markovina said:

And there is even a thread title in bold capital letters JAY JAY - and does he give old Jay Jay a withering spray - hah

Clearly, seeing as you haven't read the full post, you are unaware that the "withering spray" is actually an "old Jay Jay"post, posted on here, about RWWA claiming credit for a stakes increase at Kellerberrin that was actually paid for by the club......that Peter Profit has copied and pasted onto is blog. Be handy if you got the facts right before you post Marko.

Gilgamesh · December 2025

Rocket_Reign said:

warrenrobinson said:
I'm no subscriber but one thing i do know he bases his views on facts.

Hahaha he does not you fool, constantly calls me a drug cheat, no one’s horses get swabbed more than mine and I never have and never will get a positive swab

We can all have our differing opinions and butt heads but when things are clear, a hell of a lot of starters for M Young with zero swab issues really speaks for itself.

Unlike others who have been recidivist and welcomed back with open arms, even arms - even celebrated, sick bag type stuff.

Rocket stuffed up, did his time and is now sending around a hell of a lot of horses that keeps the game running now doubt at incredibly tight margins.

Do I agree with him often, probably not. Is it fair to throw that type of mud at him, absolutely not.

Markovina · December 2025

JayJay said:

Markovina said:

And there is even a thread title in bold capital letters JAY JAY - and does he give old Jay Jay a withering spray - hah
Clearly, seeing as you haven't read the full post, you are unaware that the "withering spray" is actually an "old Jay Jay"post, posted on here, about RWWA claiming credit for a stakes increase at Kellerberrin that was actually paid for by the club......that Peter Profit has copied and pasted onto is blog. Be handy if you got the facts right before you post Marko.

Relax a bit Jay Jay , theres a thing called banter for goodness sake . You bite worse and instantly like a flathead fish

I dont read Peter Profits stuff , by accident i came accross Four Legged Lottery yesterday , but one thing i agree with the bloke , he called C Cross , L McCarthys straw man , and i think that is an apt description

Idont think that set up should have been allowed , what Craig Cross was the official trainer of 20-30 horses , then what was L McCarthy the stable foreman

Peter Profit has really got stuck into NSW Trotting , and some trainers have been pinged for drug use , blokes who could suddenly improve horses if you follow the form . Not casting any aspersions , but they are allways improving their testing re old swabs , so it will be interesting what happens/eventuates in NSW 3-4-5 years down the track , so i wouldnt throw Peter Profit totally under the back wheels just yet

JayJay · December 2025

There is also such a thing as posting incorrect, unresearched nonsense, unsupported by any evidence....... and then passing it off as "banter".

Markovina · December 2025

Gilgamesh said:

Rocket_Reign said:

warrenrobinson said:
I'm no subscriber but one thing i do know he bases his views on facts.

Hahaha he does not you fool, constantly calls me a drug cheat, no one’s horses get swabbed more than mine and I never have and never will get a positive swab

We can all have our differing opinions and butt heads but when things are clear, a hell of a lot of starters for M Young with zero swab issues really speaks for itself.

Unlike others who have been recidivist and welcomed back with open arms, even arms - even celebrated, sick bag type stuff.

Rocket stuffed up, did his time and is now sending around a hell of a lot of horses that keeps the game running now doubt at incredibly tight margins.

Do I agree with him often, probably not. Is it fair to throw that type of mud at him, absolutely not.

Not crawling to Rocket , and i dont want him to make a response/reply because he may get into trouble with the authorities

But you could argue that Rocket got absolutely crucified ( and it wouldnt happen today ) getting 4 years by telling one owner that he may hand up with a horse that subsequently did not win another race and i think only won 2 races in its life time

Now about 9 mths ago i posted the example of Matt Rue , he had 2 in the one race at Parkes or Dubbo - tight 700 metre circuits with no sprint lane , Rue drove the even money fave ( and i thought it had superior form ) from gate 1 over the short 1700 metre trip , Rue had a stable mate drew gate 5 at about $5.50 - it had no hope of leading , but Rue gifted it the lead , and the $5 pop won and Rues horse ran 2nd or 3rd - there was no query

How do you know whether he told the connections of the $5 chance im gifting you the lead thus they might have backed it , and even the connections of the even money fave knowing what was going to happen might have backed the $5 winner as well

One bloke gets 4 years - and the other bloke there isnt even a query , and i can see very little difference in the 2 sets of circumstances

Gilgamesh · January 1

Billyjames throw in a late nom for GP tomorrow night??? Some effort by horse and trainer.

Markovina · January 3

Ok im in the correct thread title re whip use - and there are a few pure white posters who are so upset by whip use in past decades in harness racing - and they have got the hide and bias to say it was worse in the E/States - and the posters im referring to are Jay Jay Chariots and Arapaho

Now there is absolutely no bias in me - ive consistently said that Trevor Warwick was the best ever - re Trainer /Driver , and hes a West Australian

When it comes to whip use , and ive got no issue with what this driver did at the time because he wasnt breaking any rules at the time , but Lou Austin he was the hardest most severe , most punishing whip driver i have seen in my life on bread and butter horses

And he had a great action ( under the rules ) he was like a machine , he would hit them that hard and that quickly , he could get 3 hits in to alot of blokes 2

A couple of examples - he drove this horse ( Save the Game knows this horse ) it use to run cheeky races - winning or running a place at GP sitting in the breeze and at nice odds , and one night it did exactly that won at double figures , and John Hunt a great caller said after the race " Boy Lou didnt miss him in the home straight " now why would he say that , because he absolutely belted the thing

Another example , late 70s early 80s , a Saturday night meeting at Bunbury i was pro punting at the time , i can still picture this , he is leading at the 500 metre mark , very low grade horse , and a big horse , he was actually rocking in the cart - i havent seen that for many a day , thats how slow they were going , probably ran the last qtr in 32 seconds

At the 500 metre mark he is about a neck in front - from that point on he is rocking in the cart and hitting that horse as hard as he can , i reckon he has hit that horse 25-30 times to the winning post - be absolutely flogged it - it kept its neck margin and won by that margin

Now i didnt have any problem with what he did at the time , because he didnt break the rules

But because Jay Jay Chariots and Arapaho are so upset about the whip use in past decades , then i want them to give their opinion on Lou Austin and his whip use on bread and butter horses

This is going to be most interesting reading

savethegame · January 3

Kings Shadow that is the horse Lou Austin would cut ham steaks of his rump the more he hit the more he would lift, sure that horse had enormous tolerance to pain, If it's not him i can't help. Marko.
You man favourite play was on mares giving it to them under the tits,. laying over with half moon action

savethegame · January 3

Going back without going too deep, Punter had 500 pounds a place for driver it was 20 metres in front at the 400 he started hitting with the whip lacing it got beat the punter said your nice silly bastard you never even had one pound the win. And using the whip like that

His response was the only way i could stop him winning, the more i hit him he was rolling himself up into a ball and losing ground as a consequence, it was always about betting back then

Markovina · January 3

savethegame said:
Kings Shadow that is the horse Lou Austin would cut ham steaks of his rump the more he hit the more he would lift, sure that horse had enormous tolerance to pain, If it's not him i can't help. Marko.
You man favourite play was on mares giving it to them under the tits,. laying over with half moon action

Your pretty good STG - King Shadow was the horse , and you are 1000% correct , the more he hit it , the more it would lift , that horse in its right grade was game as they come

And back in the day STG , everyone was fair game in getting hit and rightfully so

True story STG , nothing to do with horses , but im so piissed off with young people the terrifying things they are doing , and there is no fear of physical punishment so they run a muck - 150 of them in Melb storm a Woolies store , pushing over isles of stock and terrifying the customers

Early 1960s , im 8 or 9 this was interstate , got the grey school shorts on , im up at the Dentist , and i saw this bloke for years after so there was no hard feelings . He was about 50 , i can still seeing him doing this , for some reason i was out of the dentist chair , mucking about and laughing my head off . He got sick of it , and he got a nice free flowing backswing , and he hit me as hard as he blooody could with the open hand to my upper thigh , it hurt like hell , i immediately wiped the stupid grin off my face , got back into the dentist chair , behaved myself and he did the 2 fillings , i dont think i even told my parents , if i had of , they would have said , you rude little sod you got what you deserved

Fast forward to today , if a dentist hit an 8 yr old - the over reaction , they would suspend the poor bloke for about 2 years , hes dangerous you know , and the mother would be all over social media , you cant hit my little Johny like that , no she wouldnt say that , shed say you cant hit my little Oliver like that - hah

Thats why they are completing running a muck and terrifying people , because their is no physical punishment , they know nothing is going to happen to them

Chariotsonfire · January 7

At least Peter Oneill is doing his best to revive some interest at GP with Family Fun Fridays in January.

Markovina · January 7

Chariotsonfire said:
At least Peter Oneill is doing his best to revive some interest at GP with Family Fun Fridays in January.

What is the concept behind that - can you expand

Chariotsonfire · January 7

https://x.com/i/status/2008721034011439109

warrenrobinson · January 7

Maybe a few dollars spent on maintenance to make it a safe place to take families. No Handicap No Turnover No GP.

Markovina · January 7

warrenrobinson said:
Maybe a few dollars spent on maintenance to make it a safe place to take families. No Handicap No Turnover No GP.

Maybe GP the run down condition of it ( and perhaps its demise ) is the Royal Melb Showgrounds mark 2 ( this was right at the end when it was a Trots venue )

Danny Power his comment re May 1979 Harness Horse " Nail in the Coffin for the future of the Showgrounds "

Patrons shouldnt have to put up with the filth of the place. Dirt and Bird Droppings cover the seats , and most of the usual facilities , especially in the catering area no longer exist

warrenrobinson · January 7

The management have no respect for the iconic GP.

JayJay · January 7

Markovina said:

Patrons shouldnt have to put up with the filth of the place. Dirt and Bird Droppings cover the seats , and most of the usual facilities , especially in the catering area no longer exist

They don't, general patronage almost non existent, have voted with their feet. Not sure which of the "usual facilities" in catering no longer exist? Beau Rivage, Steelo's, Caduceus Club, Beau Don (Members) all still functioning. Not aware of any that have closed?

Bushbookie · January 7

Got me stuffed why everyones knocking GP , Was there 4 weeks ago and every facility as good as anything in Qld . Hardest thing for me was getting in and out through members carpark . Easy to get a beer and feed , Easy to get on with Bookie and Tote , Toilets clean , Plenty of TVs , Good Viewing track , Tons of Seating , Can easily hear course announcer , easy walkdown from City Accomodation , Free to get in , Girls going around giving baloons and lollies to kids . OK the turnstiles and elevators might look outdated but but deadset its OK for Public .

warrenrobinson · January 7

The next time in town Bushbookie let me know and i'll gladly take you for a tour.

Bushbookie · January 7

Wont be back for a while Robbo , better to just spell out your problems with GP that if fixed would get people back in reasonable numbers to GP. Sure they could spend millions upgrading but like Drive Inns its over Australia Wide for on track attendance at Harness Meetings

G'day Punter!

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