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Pinjarra Magic Millions 2025

West Australian Racing
ChrisChris    5,697 posts
West Australian Racing
Always a cracking day of racing, big fields, challenging punting.

There’s value out there to be found.

R3. Valsassina
R4. Bold Hero
R5. Trio
R6. Hostile Talk
R7. Capitola
R8. Perfect Chant
R9. Just Saint James
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  • Vincent_vegaVincent_vega    674 posts
    I never put my selections on here, but I'm going to post some today:

    Race 7 - Perfectly Proper
    Race 9 - golden fighter

    Both ew, all up ew both for me too.

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  • SLIPPERGOLDENSLIPPERGOLDEN    8,413 posts
    R4 I Love Your Smile can run a bit of a race at odds
    R5 Trio and Mystic Jane quinella
    R6 Petroushka from Influencing
    R7 Golden Opera. May not be over until this lady sings
    R8 Perfect Chant with Cashel Palace a good chance to surprise again
    R9 Chop Suey could take this away and win from Rock This Town. Final Authority for novelties
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  • Vincent_vegaVincent_vega    674 posts
    Vincent_vega said:

    I never put my selections on here, but I'm going to post some today:

    Race 7 - Perfectly Proper
    Race 9 - golden fighter

    Both ew, all up ew both for me too.




    Race 7 - feel like vomiting
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  • RodentRodent    7,446 posts
    Unlucky Vincent. Gee Darren can get a winner's name wrong in a big race.

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  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,950 posts
    I’m travelling at the moment but from what I can see on the phone, it was an ordinary day for WA bred horses in the two year old race
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  • RodentRodent    7,446 posts
    7 horses sired by eastern staters. They finished 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 7th and 12th. The 7 WA sired horses went poorly. If it wasn't for Westspeed.....
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  • silkysilky    428 posts
    When Western Australia’s best stallion is a sire of 3yo+ type horses is it really a surprise?
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  • GrandpaGrandpa    23 posts
    Can someone tell me if it is the norm for stewards to allow a horse to arrive on the racecourse half a hour before the race I always thought it was a hour and 2hrs if it was a feature race. My facts could be wrong though.
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  • DesperadoDesperado    148 posts
    Grandpa said:

    Can someone tell me if it is the norm for stewards to allow a horse to arrive on the racecourse half a hour before the race I always thought it was a hour and 2hrs if it was a feature race. My facts could be wrong though.

    You are correct. Strictly an hour before and 2 hours for feature races,
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  • GrandpaGrandpa    23 posts
    Thanks,Desperado so would you be asking a few questions to the stewards if you were the owners of the place getters.
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  • shothrushothru    323 posts
    Desperado said:

    Grandpa said:

    Can someone tell me if it is the norm for stewards to allow a horse to arrive on the racecourse half a hour before the race I always thought it was a hour and 2hrs if it was a feature race. My facts could be wrong though.

    You are correct. Strictly an hour before and 2 hours for feature races,
    That is correct, but stewards often are leniant under certain circumstances , like road works etc
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  • savethegamesavethegame    3,215 posts
    One hour before,-- But having two punctures, they would have made contact with stewards explaining the situation, compassion component you have got until 20- minutes prior, we then have no other option but to scratch your horse.
    If no contact is made different story.

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  • loose_gooseloose_goose    2,135 posts
    Grandpa said:

    Thanks,Desperado so would you be asking a few questions to the stewards if you were the owners of the place getters.

    If the connections were in conversation with stewards why, then I think great that Stipes, used a bit of discretion.

    You sound like a sore loser
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  • Vincent_vegaVincent_vega    674 posts
    I think its fair enough, two punctures…. As if one isnt bad enough
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  • spinkingspinking    3,997 posts
    No I wouldn’t be asking questions under the circumstances the girl done a great job to get there. Good on her well done she has. She has done a good job with the horse. Good ride to boot. Got a share in one of the place getters Gramps
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  • RodentRodent    7,446 posts
    silky said:

    When Western Australia’s best stallion is a sire of 3yo+ type horses is it really a surprise?

    WA's best stallion beats up on substandard opposition. He now has 8 crops of racing age with his oldest being 9yos.
     Can you believe he doesn't have a single stakeswinner outside of W.A? Would any of his 22 stakeswinners be any good in the east? He is a really good stallion that throws heaps of horses with good ability but they seem to have a ceiling that is a bit lower than what you'd expect from a stallion around the 50k service fee range. He has 2 G1 winners in Bustler and Kay Cee. Not really the types to send east to compete at WFA level.
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  • RodentRodent    7,446 posts
    edited February 2025
    For context, sires like Maschino, Universal Ruler, Gingerbread Man and Awesome Rock have many fewer stakeswinners but have progeny that have won stakes races in the east.
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  • silkysilky    428 posts
    Rodent said:

    For context, sires like Maschino, Universal Ruler, Gingerbread Man and Awesome Rock have many fewer stakeswinners but have progeny that have won stakes races in the east.



    For context, Dundeel sits a few spots higher than playing god on the national sires table having 277 runners compared to 127 at a service fee of 80k compared to 45k
    Agree that pg doesn’t have the east coast g1s
    But he doesn’t cover the east coast mares either
    If he did, well I guess we’ll never know

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  • GrandpaGrandpa    23 posts
    Savethegame answered all my questions, in the past I have just heard of horses being scratched for being late on course. Yep good on her and the jock. No I haven't got a share in the place getters(wish I did) and goosie not a sore loser as didn't even have a bet in the race.

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  • RodentRodent    7,446 posts
    silky said:

    Rodent said:

    For context, sires like Maschino, Universal Ruler, Gingerbread Man and Awesome Rock have many fewer stakeswinners but have progeny that have won stakes races in the east.



    For context, Dundeel sits a few spots higher than playing god on the national sires table having 277 runners compared to 127 at a service fee of 80k compared to 45k
    Agree that pg doesn’t have the east coast g1s
    But he doesn’t cover the east coast mares either
    If he did, well I guess we’ll never know
    Dundeel has sired 4x the number of individual G1 winners. They have won 13 G1s to 2 G1s. They have won elite G1s like Caulfield Guineas (Super Seth), Golden Rose (Militarize), Randwick Guineas/Doncaster (Celestial Legend).
     Remember Playing God progeny haven't even won a Listed Race in the east. 
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  • silkysilky    428 posts
    Rodent said:

    silky said:

    Rodent said:

    For context, sires like Maschino, Universal Ruler, Gingerbread Man and Awesome Rock have many fewer stakeswinners but have progeny that have won stakes races in the east.



    For context, Dundeel sits a few spots higher than playing god on the national sires table having 277 runners compared to 127 at a service fee of 80k compared to 45k
    Agree that pg doesn’t have the east coast g1s
    But he doesn’t cover the east coast mares either
    If he did, well I guess we’ll never know
    Dundeel has sired 4x the number of individual G1 winners. They have won 13 G1s to 2 G1s. They have won elite G1s like Caulfield Guineas (Super Seth), Golden Rose (Militarize), Randwick Guineas/Doncaster (Celestial Legend).
     Remember Playing God progeny haven't even won a Listed Race in the east. 


    Like I said, pg hasn’t covered the calibre of mares that stallions above him have been afforded
    Yet he only sits a few spots behind dundeel, a champion stallion, on the sires table based on dollars earned even though he’s had less than half the amount of runners and racing for less prize money
    An incredible effort
    If pg had covered the quality of mares dundeel has over his career and stood on the east coast I’m pretty sure pg stock would have won some elite races
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  • loose_gooseloose_goose    2,135 posts
    Grandpa said:

    Savethegame answered all my questions, in the past I have just heard of horses being scratched for being late on course. Yep good on her and the jock. No I haven't got a share in the place getters(wish I did) and goosie not a sore loser as didn't even have a bet in the race.

    Sorry Gramps , my bad, just thought that the drama they went through just to get there, if it had run 5th this conversation would not have even reared it's head. I say good on all involved giving them every chance to get there & start, with all the drama's. The bloke in William,s who helped & the bloke who lent the float hope they ended up with a few cartons  https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1A3VbhZjvU/

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