Ascot 27/2/21

SLIPPERGOLDEN · March 2021

Jockeysroom said:
Bob was obviously happy with Paddy’s ride on Saturday rewarding him with more rides this coming Saturday

Knick Knack Paddy Whack is given a few bones and even leaves long time lover Mathews for one in the process.

detonator · March 2021

Pikey gets the breast. Parnham gets the thighs. Hally gets the wings. Carvery gets the feet and the beak. Seems he is liking that delicacy......DELICACY get it !!! =)) =)) =))

paraletic · March 2021

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Flanders · March 2021

SLIPPERGOLDEN said:

Jockeysroom said:
Bob was obviously happy with Paddy’s ride on Saturday rewarding him with more rides this coming Saturday
Knick Knack Paddy Whack is given a few bones and even leaves long time lover Mathews for one in the process.

Throw him a bone Slip, he wouldn't have got off many for A Mathews over the years. Couldn't blame the bloke when he's getting some opportunities from Bob to give it a proper go.
Remember in the winter he picked up a couple of Group races on Perfect Jewel at juicy odds, so you don't have to be on the top picks to be a chance on one of the army.

Thunderstruck · March 2021

Hold up Para, did you withdraw your "bullet"? :P

detonator · March 2021

paraletic · March 2021

Thunderstruck said:
Hold up Para, did you withdraw your "bullet"? :P

Yeah thought better of it lol

But i meant what i said, cringeworthy as all f...

detonator · March 2021

Just trickin :D

detonator · March 2021

Speaking of cringeworthy. I find the racing media in W.A are too conflicted to make detrimental calls on potential controversial subjects or incidents that could upset people within the industry.

Human nature I suppose but does not make for good listening, viewing or reading when it is “lick a**e”.

Still can’t shake the laughing and giggling during the “dropping the hands of Dougie White” interview after the Kingston Town. Now that was sickening.

Find it hard to let that one go.

:-q

H-BOMBER · March 2021

detonator said:
Who is the fellow senior jockey Hash ? Willie Pike ?

J Brown

detonator · March 2021

Carvery and Brown good mates ?

Brown and Warwick not good mates ?

Not the sort of tweet or whatever it was that you would read every day by ones peer.

Aussiereds72 · March 2021

hash said:
and now we have another fellow senior jockey posting a comment online asking “why wasn’t there more questions of Warwick for continuing to slow the speed, saying the jockey of Solaia bought the pressure on herself by not being able to judge the tempo”

And that jockey is 100% correct Lucy Warwick has to be asked questions but she seems to of avoided any scrutiny about her ride

Aussiereds72 · March 2021

paraletic said:
Tweet from Rooney

Update: Bob Peters calls for new rule to stop growing trend of slow speed in WA races, as Patrick Carbery is cleared over his ride on Testing Love.

=)) =))
#spell

And so he should of been cleared aswell

hash · March 2021

Aussiereds72 said:

hash said:
and now we have another fellow senior jockey posting a comment online asking “why wasn’t there more questions of Warwick for continuing to slow the speed, saying the jockey of Solaia bought the pressure on herself by not being able to judge the tempo”

And that jockey is 100% correct Lucy Warwick has to be asked questions but she seems to of avoided any scrutiny about her ride

She gave her mount every possible chance of winning she has nothing to answer to.. Unlike the other jockey in question! Good on her for trying to take advantage of what looked a race devoid of speed, last I checked there were no speed cameras on the racetrack clocking how fast they run

paraletic · March 2021

H-BOMBER said:

detonator said:
Who is the fellow senior jockey Hash ? Willie Pike ?

J Brown

Does he still get rides does he?

Aussiereds72 · March 2021

hash said:

Aussiereds72 said:

hash said:
and now we have another fellow senior jockey posting a comment online asking “why wasn’t there more questions of Warwick for continuing to slow the speed, saying the jockey of Solaia bought the pressure on herself by not being able to judge the tempo”

And that jockey is 100% correct Lucy Warwick has to be asked questions but she seems to of avoided any scrutiny about her ride

She gave her mount every possible chance of winning she has nothing to answer to.. Unlike the other jockey in question! Good on her for trying to take advantage of what looked a race devoid of speed, last I checked there were no speed cameras on the racetrack clocking how fast they run

???????????? you ???????? so it’s ok for to not take a sit when she had the chance to but not the other horse jog on

detonator · March 2021

She probably would have if Carvery had elected to push on instead of eyeballing.

Tivers · March 2021

When did Warwick have the chance to take a sit ?
Her horse jumped a length clear of the field and every other jockey threw the anchor out to sit behind her.
I can guarantee you - she would rather not have led at all.
So how does she face any more scrutiny than any other.

Got me baffled RE all these complaining RE tempo in races - yet they all want someone else to do it for their benefit.

IMO if you have multiple horses in a race and you want speed on, then you should have one doing so - from the start.
Not all just sit back and complain later.

carey · March 2021

Tivers said:
When did Warwick have the chance to take a sit ?
Her horse jumped a length clear of the field and every other jockey threw the anchor out to sit behind her.
I can guarantee you - she would rather not have led at all.
So how does she face any more scrutiny than any other.

Got me baffled RE all these complaining RE tempo in races - yet they all want someone else to do it for their benefit.

IMO if you have multiple horses in a race and you want speed on, then you should have one doing so - from the start.
Not all just sit back and complain later.

dunno what you are referring to, but your last bit is spot on correct.
the only thing that matters, is giving the horse you are riding the best go you possibly can, if that means crawling in front, and the others dills let it happen, then that is their problem

Flanders · March 2021

Whatever happened to "may the best man (or in this case horse) win"?
I reckon we forget about these such points:
1. pace
2. lack of pace
3. you can't have pacemakers
4. you can't eyeball me

We should just let the circumstances of the race take care of themselves- it would be a much better sport.
I'm not saying that riders shouldn't be held to account if they didn't give their horse it's chance (ie. pacemakers can set the pace but not if it is excessive), but for fuggs sake if someone eyeballs your horse and they didn't break any rules, then TOO BAD. You either win or you don't, given the circumstances of that race, like I said.
I see horses eyeballing others frequently and they are often roughies with no chance to begin with. It is up to the jockey who is being eyeballed to deal with that. For the record, I think Lucy dealt with it perfectly well on Solaia but unfortunately for her and the many owners it came up short on the day.
Back when racing was real and competition was fierce- this would've been sorted on the day with perhaps a verbal barrage if the jockey felt stiffed. But there is no doubt that it wouldn't have this sort of carry on because that was when you could say "thats racing" and you cop it on the chin and smarten up for the next time. This shyt on here for near-on a week sums up the difference between now and then perfectly well.

savethegame · March 2021

Still no mention of Testing love pulling up significantly- lame on here. as trainer A.Williams has mentioned in stewards inquiry. after veterinary inspection on monday-- off to the paddock ---hope it eventual gets taken out of OAKS betting -------- Still today only 21s. chance on tab touch,plus still in oaks field on Cris..----- Still The best circus in town pay to get in pay to watch, pay to get out..

Because a 1.60 fav.gets rolled everyone wants to take petrol to a fire ...Stewards & Integrity units are there to analysis. what actual could have happened.& put the fire out .Just maybe T.L. Leg issue happened at the 550 ?.Stand corrected no mention of vets inspection after the race regarding T.L.. We spend 23 million on intergrity in w.a. racing ---The intergrity unit should have been there along with rwwa vet at the mondays iinspection, and to report there findings. along with the trainers vet. in written form.

Horse is a creature of habit plus with adrenaline,& pain in a split second can be curtains.

For those that are whinging about pace go and plait what comes out your rear end.---its called racing.

Hope Testing Love is able to continue as a racehorse at some stage. .

SLIPPERGOLDEN · March 2021

paraletic said:

H-BOMBER said:

detonator said:

Quote: J Brown Does he still get rides does he?

As he would say.... He is living the dream.

detonator · March 2021

Flanders said:
Whatever happened to "may the best man (or in this case horse) win"?
I reckon we forget about these such points:
1. pace
2. lack of pace
3. you can't have pacemakers
4. you can't eyeball me

We should just let the circumstances of the race take care of themselves- it would be a much better sport.
I'm not saying that riders shouldn't be held to account if they didn't give their horse it's chance (ie. pacemakers can set the pace but not if it is excessive), but for fuggs sake if someone eyeballs your horse and they didn't break any rules, then TOO BAD. You either win or you don't, given the circumstances of that race, like I said.
I see horses eyeballing others frequently and they are often roughies with no chance to begin with. It is up to the jockey who is being eyeballed to deal with that. For the record, I think Lucy dealt with it perfectly well on Solaia but unfortunately for her and the many owners it came up short on the day.
Back when racing was real and competition was fierce- this would've been sorted on the day with perhaps a verbal barrage if the jockey felt stiffed. But there is no doubt that it wouldn't have this sort of carry on because that was when you could say "thats racing" and you cop it on the chin and smarten up for the next time. This shyt on here for near-on a week sums up the difference between now and then perfectly well.

How many of those "eyeball" races you refer to have stewards enquiries???

And how many of your eyeball races sees the jockey take off at the 700m for some reason when the race is 400m further than it has ever raced before ?

....This is a recording...

paraletic · March 2021

SLIPPERGOLDEN said:

paraletic said:

H-BOMBER said:

detonator said:

Quote: J Brown Does he still get rides does he?

As he would say.... He is living the dream.

glad someone is!

Flanders · March 2021

detonator said:

Flanders said:
Whatever happened to "may the best man (or in this case horse) win"?
I reckon we forget about these such points:
1. pace
2. lack of pace
3. you can't have pacemakers
4. you can't eyeball me

We should just let the circumstances of the race take care of themselves- it would be a much better sport.
I'm not saying that riders shouldn't be held to account if they didn't give their horse it's chance (ie. pacemakers can set the pace but not if it is excessive), but for fuggs sake if someone eyeballs your horse and they didn't break any rules, then TOO BAD. You either win or you don't, given the circumstances of that race, like I said.
I see horses eyeballing others frequently and they are often roughies with no chance to begin with. It is up to the jockey who is being eyeballed to deal with that. For the record, I think Lucy dealt with it perfectly well on Solaia but unfortunately for her and the many owners it came up short on the day.
Back when racing was real and competition was fierce- this would've been sorted on the day with perhaps a verbal barrage if the jockey felt stiffed. But there is no doubt that it wouldn't have this sort of carry on because that was when you could say "thats racing" and you cop it on the chin and smarten up for the next time. This shyt on here for near-on a week sums up the difference between now and then perfectly well.
How many of those "eyeball" races you refer to have stewards enquiries???
And how many of your eyeball races sees the jockey take off at the 700m for some reason when the race is 400m further than it has ever raced before ?
....This is a recording...

Dunno and frankly don't care, although maybe there should have been more if this week's crap is anything to go by.

I stated my feels for my wishes for the future. You can keep harping on one event in the past if you like but it's not going to change that it ran 2nd and its not going to change the outcome of the stewards hearing so maybe spend your precious time looking for something to gamble on tomorrow instead.

paraletic · March 2021

Flanders said:

detonator said:

Flanders said:
Whatever happened to "may the best man (or in this case horse) win"?
I reckon we forget about these such points:
1. pace
2. lack of pace
3. you can't have pacemakers
4. you can't eyeball me

We should just let the circumstances of the race take care of themselves- it would be a much better sport.
I'm not saying that riders shouldn't be held to account if they didn't give their horse it's chance (ie. pacemakers can set the pace but not if it is excessive), but for fuggs sake if someone eyeballs your horse and they didn't break any rules, then TOO BAD. You either win or you don't, given the circumstances of that race, like I said.
I see horses eyeballing others frequently and they are often roughies with no chance to begin with. It is up to the jockey who is being eyeballed to deal with that. For the record, I think Lucy dealt with it perfectly well on Solaia but unfortunately for her and the many owners it came up short on the day.
Back when racing was real and competition was fierce- this would've been sorted on the day with perhaps a verbal barrage if the jockey felt stiffed. But there is no doubt that it wouldn't have this sort of carry on because that was when you could say "thats racing" and you cop it on the chin and smarten up for the next time. This shyt on here for near-on a week sums up the difference between now and then perfectly well.
How many of those "eyeball" races you refer to have stewards enquiries???
And how many of your eyeball races sees the jockey take off at the 700m for some reason when the race is 400m further than it has ever raced before ?
....This is a recording...

Dunno and frankly don't care, although maybe there should have been more if this week's crap is anything to go by.

I stated my feels for my wishes for the future. You can keep harping on one event in the past if you like but it's not going to change that it ran 2nd and its not going to change the outcome of the stewards hearing so maybe spend your precious time looking for something to gamble on tomorrow instead.

amen to that. All i wanna back is the horse that is using vanilla essence as fly repellant? =))

Flanders · March 2021

paraletic said:

Flanders said:

detonator said:

Flanders said:
Whatever happened to "may the best man (or in this case horse) win"?
I reckon we forget about these such points:
1. pace
2. lack of pace
3. you can't have pacemakers
4. you can't eyeball me

We should just let the circumstances of the race take care of themselves- it would be a much better sport.
I'm not saying that riders shouldn't be held to account if they didn't give their horse it's chance (ie. pacemakers can set the pace but not if it is excessive), but for fuggs sake if someone eyeballs your horse and they didn't break any rules, then TOO BAD. You either win or you don't, given the circumstances of that race, like I said.
I see horses eyeballing others frequently and they are often roughies with no chance to begin with. It is up to the jockey who is being eyeballed to deal with that. For the record, I think Lucy dealt with it perfectly well on Solaia but unfortunately for her and the many owners it came up short on the day.
Back when racing was real and competition was fierce- this would've been sorted on the day with perhaps a verbal barrage if the jockey felt stiffed. But there is no doubt that it wouldn't have this sort of carry on because that was when you could say "thats racing" and you cop it on the chin and smarten up for the next time. This shyt on here for near-on a week sums up the difference between now and then perfectly well.
How many of those "eyeball" races you refer to have stewards enquiries???
And how many of your eyeball races sees the jockey take off at the 700m for some reason when the race is 400m further than it has ever raced before ?
....This is a recording...

Dunno and frankly don't care, although maybe there should have been more if this week's crap is anything to go by.

I stated my feels for my wishes for the future. You can keep harping on one event in the past if you like but it's not going to change that it ran 2nd and its not going to change the outcome of the stewards hearing so maybe spend your precious time looking for something to gamble on tomorrow instead.

amen to that. All i wanna back is the horse that is using vanilla essence as fly repellant? =))

Well you won't be able to smell it from where you watch the races. Need to get close to the source

JimmyPop · March 2021

I would recommend to everyone on this site to read and digest all the sectionals of the 1800m races on the day.

It appears stewards may not have been fully aware of the times when requesting an enquiry. If the enquiry had of continued on Saturday night then Pat would have got time.

Luckily for him the times indicated it was the slowest 1800m race and then when you break down sectionals, even the 1000 - 800 in each 1800m race then Pat would have been crucified because eyeballs suggested he put his foot down in that furlong and carved up the favourite - that wasn't the case. Times mean everything, especially on the same day.

Let's move on and back winners on Saturday. Let's get on Carbery.

G'day Punter!

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