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ChelseaChelsea    1,369 posts
West Australian Racing
After his great win on the weekend(in a very weak race)Man Booker has been given 5 rating points for his win.
He is now 3 rating points below Group 1 winners Pounamu and Great Shot.
Man Booker has only won 1 Group race (as a 3yo) and has never won at Weight For Age
I think he has been very harshly treated by the Handicapper what are your thoughts?
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  • hashhash    7,495 posts
    you win you cop points pretty simple isn't it

    how many times has he raced and won out of his grade (there's an extra 2 points on top of whatever he's been given) then you can see how they slowly start to add up? 
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  • ChelseaChelsea    1,369 posts
    Never raced out of his grade,Great Shot only went up 5 points103-108)after winning the Group 1 Railway Stakes
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  • H-BOMBERH-BOMBER    10,567 posts
    Hmm, easy for me to say, but if i owned th horse there wouldnt be too much complaining from my end.

    Beat Pounomu out of sight previous start (and should have won) at WFA when should have had 4kg on it (Rated 101 as opposed to Pounomu at 109). Didnt recieve a penalty.

    Absolutely kills them on the weekend giving at least 4kg to the rest. The rest arent much, agree was a weak race.

    Absolutely garaunteed a Railway start if going that way. id be super excited about that and the stiffer competition in the next 2 months.....some mouthwatering clashes


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  • H-BOMBERH-BOMBER    10,567 posts
    I will say im a massive fan of him. Especially after the weekend
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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    I dont know if that race was worthy of getting the discretionary extra point... in fact, I would have given him 3pts because of the dreadful opposition. only beat 85-91 raters... 

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  • hashhash    7,495 posts
    edited September 2018
    H-BOMBER said:

    I will say im a massive fan of him. Especially after the weekend

    so whose corner are you in for the Railway.... Man Booker or King Blitz as you seem to be in love with both lately... especially the latter  :))
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  • spinkingspinking    4,001 posts
    Don't understand your comment about that race being worthy Diva , at least it was a listed race. Floyd coped the discretionary point for winning a 62+ last year
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  • ChelseaChelsea    1,369 posts
    edited September 2018
    Wink And A Nod was a 99 rater and then won 4 races and placed once from 6 starts Including:
    Grandstand Cup
    Old Comrade stakes
    Belmont Sprint Group 3
    Hyperion Stakes Group 3
    And only went up a total of 6 points to 105
    Go figure
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  • RodentRodent    7,470 posts
    Wink And A Nod: It shows the value of winning SW-P and WFA races as opposed to handicaps.
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  • ChelseaChelsea    1,369 posts
    spinking said:

    Don't understand your comment about that race being worthy Diva , at least it was a listed race. Floyd coped the discretionary point for winning a 62+ last year


    Yes but he won his race by 5.5 len in a rating race(not out of class)same as Enticing Star,Galaxy star ect
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  • ChelseaChelsea    1,369 posts
    Rodent said:

    Wink And A Nod: It shows the value of winning SW-P and WFA races as opposed to handicaps.

    Man Booker also won the Grandstand Cup(by 0.5 len)as a 98 rater and got 3 points Yet Wink And A Nod wins the same race by 3.5 len and gets 2 points going from 99 to 101

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  • H-BOMBERH-BOMBER    10,567 posts
    Does sex have anything to do with different penalties?
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  • silkysilky    430 posts
    Didn't deserve 5 points, should have been the standard 3/4 points. Ring up and get a please explain

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  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,988 posts
    Has the Domenic Berne model been adopted ? I know another Trainer who advised Owners to sell a recent winner due to handicapping
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  • spinkingspinking    4,001 posts
    Ring up and get a explanation Silkman, don't waste your 30 cents
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  • hashhash    7,495 posts
    edited September 2018
    H-BOMBER said:

    Does sex have anything to do with different penalties?

    are you implying certain owners and trainers of horses being favoured depending who the handicapper has *** with?    :-O

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  • hashhash    7,495 posts
    DamienWyer said:

    Has the Domenic Berne model been adopted ? I know another Trainer who advised Owners to sell a recent winner due to handicapping

    and they did didn't they? you could say that horse "had it all"
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