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2015-16 Season Top 10 - Trainers

West Australian Racing
hashhash    7,495 posts
West Australian Racing
Grant Williams gets a mention so I thought it'd be appropriate to post this in our local section..

Excuse my ignorance but when it says he's collected 4.5 mill in prize money that would mean the total before he takes his 5% cut

https://www.racing.com/news/2016-07-28/2015-16-top-10---trainers?utm_source=ActiveCampaign&utm_medium=email&utm_content=[CHAMPION]+Tips+for+Caulfield,+Morphettville+and+More&utm_campaign=29-07-16+-+General

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  • buffybuffy    277 posts
    Trainers get 10% dont they? And jockeys get 5%?

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  • hashhash    7,495 posts
    Correct my mistake
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  • LeglessLegless    5,108 posts
    edited July 2016

    :-j just a lazy $450k (without training fees) for a years toil then - hardly worth getting out of the cot for =)) $-)

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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,505 posts
    ^^^^ must ask yourself what the training fees are...
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  • RIORIO    14,902 posts
    I heard along time ago, that Bob isn't big on fees, due to the quality of horses he gives his trainers. I didn't believe it when i heard it and i dont now, but i wouldn't be surprised if he is paying less than a lot of us!!!

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  • paraleticparaletic    3,750 posts
    However he does it, its working

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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,505 posts

    rio, I think u will find it is a set annual fee for training.

    hey rio and para..are u going to bombers fund raising day?

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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,505 posts
    11.00pm here comes the strong winds and rain....in mt. lawley...
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  • paraleticparaletic    3,750 posts
    No i cant make it on the day
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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,505 posts
    never had that beer at the Inglewood..tee one up, para.

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  • SLIPPERGOLDENSLIPPERGOLDEN    8,514 posts
    edited July 2016
    If Durrant isn't there then how do his runners run with him credited as the trainer. A joke in my opinion.

    Jason Miller (probably him) should be credited as trainer or Daddy Geoff Durrant (probably assistant) if not Jason as trainer

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  • ChelseaChelsea    1,369 posts
    As of Monday,Geoff Durrant and Jason Miller, also Grant and Alana Williams
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  • dungydungy    9,278 posts
    RIO said:

    I heard along time ago, that Bob isn't big on fees, due to the quality of horses he gives his trainers. I didn't believe it when i heard it and i dont now, but i wouldn't be surprised if he is paying less than a lot of us!!!




    Rumours that he only pays a certain amount but I reckon that's fair look at the % winnings Willis and Durrants take home it's no different to dealing with a major account in sales and they buy bigger volume so they get better pricing

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  • RIORIO    14,902 posts
    the falcon said:

    rio, I think u will find it is a set annual fee for training.

    hey rio and para..are u going to bombers fund raising day?

    not this time falcon...still struggling to get around from the "incident" in March. So public appearances are being restricted to paid ceremonies only...hahaha..I haven't even read the thread as i knew i couldn't be of any help this time around 
    :(
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  • notapuntanotapunta    938 posts
    RIO said:

    the falcon said:

    rio, I think u will find it is a set annual fee for training.

    hey rio and para..are u going to bombers fund raising day?

    not this time falcon...still struggling to get around from the "incident" in March. So public appearances are being restricted to paid ceremonies only...hahaha..I haven't even read the thread as i knew i couldn't be of any help this time around 
    :(
    I was hoping you'd bid for the Voucher I'm supplying mate, 8 hours of plumbing! I just know someone in Two Rocks will get it haha

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  • RodentRodent    7,485 posts
    Bob Peters is very smart. If he does have a fixed price that'd be extra smart. Then the trainer has no incentive to keep slow ones in work. The trainer is highly incentivised to accrue prizemoney. If the trainer wants to give any horses extra special treatment then they do so out of their own pocket. If they do anything illegal, it is at a distance from Bob and he would have clean hands. 
     I'm sure it came as a huge shock to Bob when Greg Harper got busted.

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  • RexRex    406 posts
    Rodent said:

    Bob Peters is very smart. If he does have a fixed price that'd be extra smart. Then the trainer has no incentive to keep slow ones in work. The trainer is highly incentivised to accrue prizemoney. If the trainer wants to give any horses extra special treatment then they do so out of their own pocket. If they do anything illegal, it is at a distance from Bob and he would have clean hands. 

     I'm sure it came as a huge shock to Bob when Greg Harper got busted.
    I stand to be corrected but I didn't think it was Bobs horse Greg Harper was busted with was it. If so which one? Once again I stand to be corrected.
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  • JayJayJayJay    8,627 posts
    It was Flythaiga but I don't know who owned it ...was the stablehand's fault!!
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  • paraleticparaletic    3,750 posts
    Must say didnt know much of Greg Harper so i googled it. Got onto a topic somehow of Laurie and George.. Intersting times. The 80's must have been a free for all in WA

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  • JayJayJayJay    8,627 posts
    Read Baden Pratts book The Life and Riotous Times of George Grljusich ...details the entire LRC and George saga. Great read.

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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,505 posts
    para, just have a look at rocket racers perth cup...someone will put it up here....
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  • Piston_BrokePiston_Broke    2,047 posts
    I could be wrong, but from what I have been told, Bob pays the blacksmith, vet fees and nomination/acceptances/scratching. It is 2nd hand
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  • JayJayJayJay    8,627 posts
    edited July 2016



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  • RodentRodent    7,485 posts
    Rex said:

    Rodent said:

    Bob Peters is very smart. If he does have a fixed price that'd be extra smart. Then the trainer has no incentive to keep slow ones in work. The trainer is highly incentivised to accrue prizemoney. If the trainer wants to give any horses extra special treatment then they do so out of their own pocket. If they do anything illegal, it is at a distance from Bob and he would have clean hands. 

     I'm sure it came as a huge shock to Bob when Greg Harper got busted.
    I stand to be corrected but I didn't think it was Bobs horse Greg Harper was busted with was it. If so which one? Once again I stand to be corrected.
    Greg Harper was improving everything that went into his stable. Bob Peters gave GH some horses. That is all. Harper won a Group 1 for Bob Peters with Old Nick.
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  • jumjum    3,582 posts
    Rodent said:

    Bob Peters is very smart.  

     I'm sure it came as a huge shock to Bob when Greg Harper got busted.

    =)) =)) =)) =)) =)) =)) =)) =))
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  • JayJayJayJay    8,627 posts
    If Bob was surprised or shocked, he was the only one in Australia that was. Multiple prior transgressions might have given a hint of what was to come.

    Having just rewatched the Rocket Racer fiasco, it makes me very nauseous watching that poor animal reefing and pulling the arms out of the jock the whole journey ...and we are talking 3200m here...on what I recall was a stinking hot day and then taking off like a scalded cat 6 or 800m out and winning untouched by 8 lengths....the darkest of dark, dark days for any form of racing in WA and an unforgettable blight...Number 1 in the Hall of Shame....and topped off by the "small change on it" and shouting the bar caper. What ill founded hubris and hide that man possessed!!! And still, you will find people who defend him..."oh, what a generous bloke, never met a more hail and hearty fellow, loved a good time, leviathan punter, put WA on the map"....absolute crap.

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  • RexRex    406 posts
    Rodent said:

    Rex said:

    Rodent said:

    Bob Peters is very smart. If he does have a fixed price that'd be extra smart. Then the trainer has no incentive to keep slow ones in work. The trainer is highly incentivised to accrue prizemoney. If the trainer wants to give any horses extra special treatment then they do so out of their own pocket. If they do anything illegal, it is at a distance from Bob and he would have clean hands. 

     I'm sure it came as a huge shock to Bob when Greg Harper got busted.
    I stand to be corrected but I didn't think it was Bobs horse Greg Harper was busted with was it. If so which one? Once again I stand to be corrected.
    Greg Harper was improving everything that went into his stable. Bob Peters gave GH some horses. That is all. Harper won a Group 1 for Bob Peters with Old Nick.


    Greg Harper won more than 1 group 1s for Bob Peters and in pacing and gallops he has won 21 group 1s. Regardless of everyone knocking him, and there are plenty, he must have some idea. How many others have won that many in W.A? He has never had a positive swab with ANY of Bob Peters horses.
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  • Piston_BrokePiston_Broke    2,047 posts
    he was onto the tricks long b4 anyone else at the gallops. In fact the Red Hots have always been a couple of years ahead of the gallops

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