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Cmon Perth Racing - More night meetings in Victoria next season

West Australian Racing
hashhash    7,495 posts
West Australian Racing

Racing Victoria has released the dates for next season which will see more than 10 percent of race meetings in the state held at night.

Of the 557 meetings scheduled, 57 will be run under lights which is 15 more than this season. Moonee Valley and Cranbourne will share 34 Friday night meetings while 20 will be held at Pakenham on Thursday nights.

Moonee Valley will also hold a meeting on New Year’s Eve, to run alongside the Perth Cup meeting in Western Australia.

More than 10 percent of Vic race meetings next season will be held under lights

Pakenham will host a meeting on Australia Day eve while its Cup meeting will be on a Saturday, joining Ballarat, Bendigo and Mornington as provincial venues hosting a stand-alone meeting.

With the AFL Grand Final scheduled for October 1, the Turnbull Stakes meeting at Flemington will be run the next day following the Moir Stakes meeting at Moonee Valley on Friday night.

The transfer of Flemington’s early April meeting to Saturday, March 18, 2017 will allow a five week track renovation period leading into the traditional Anzac Day meeting. As a result, meetings are programmed at Flemington on the first three Saturdays in March 2017.

There will be 557 race meetings programmed across the 2016-17 season - 109 metropolitan, 415 country and 33 picnic.

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  • hashhash    7,495 posts

    https://www.racenet.com.au/news/122067/More-night-meetings-in-Victoria-next-season.


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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,471 posts

    with our abundance of sunlight would it be feasible to have solar panels to accommodate night meetings?

    Pinjarra would be a good guinea pig...imo.

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  • underworldunderworld    35 posts
    This would be best investment ever to promote Wa racing

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  • The_BullThe_Bull    929 posts
    Night racing in WA over summer would be the most logical way forward for racing here. We are on the same GMT as two of the biggest betting nations in the world. It will never happen though as we rely to heavily on the whims of ES racing.

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  • DaleDale    1,346 posts
    imagine pinjarra under lights. Singapore and or HK pools combined what ever the day may be. i think it has to be done.Who gives a shite if the last race is at midnight eastern time. play the asian money.

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  • LuckyLongshotsLuckyLongshots    4,270 posts
    edited April 2016
    Completely disgraceful by all that have that control in WA racing, that we don't race at night!

    The timing is perfect for integration with SE Asia
    The temperature is perfect for night racing almost all of the year
    If it works for Victoria, it'll work here - gotta stop allowing trainers and Sky Channel to dictate when we race!

    Start with a midweek provincial track.  SE Asia wouldn't care which track we race at night!

    Love to see a cost benefit analysis on solar vs mains power (as falcon alluded to above).
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  • FastmoneyFastmoney    4,912 posts
    Not sure how people think it works.

    The only significant WA income is from punters on the WATAB.

    What Asians do on the punt has no effect on WA betting income.

    While racing at night has a happy feel, not sure it would make a difference to the bottom line.

    Apart from Friday which is jam packed with racing (highly unlikely to get a spot on Sky) I doubt any other night would produce more betting turnover than the current Wed or Thu meetings.

    Also when Vic or NSW hold a night meet they also hold a day meeting, so the night meeting is on top of the normal program not instead of.


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  • LuckyLongshotsLuckyLongshots    4,270 posts
    edited April 2016
    Surely twilight meetings would be an option though @Fastmoney

    If people are able to watch or attend the races at a more reasonable time of the day, surely more money could be generated. Quaddie legs between 5-7pm could be interesting.

    Just feels like no one in WA has the kahunas to try anything outside the norm. Wait Awhile WA -it sure is.

    I'm not saying its the golden egg that'll turn the industry around, maybe the industry has already accepted it's fate, but surely couldnt hurt to try something outside of the box!

    2016 just called, its not 1976 anymore!

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  • hashhash    7,495 posts

    oh and another thing I noticed the other day, during a metro meeting that was held the club (Cranbourne) hosted some sort of bush type country final race, where horses that couldn't win at the provincials and were racing at the picnics contested this race held by the club.

    I know we have our country cups and type races but it would be awesome to see a country final hosted at Ascot on a Wednesday or even a Saturday meeting, be great to give a heap of battling trainers and horses from Kal, Broome & Toodyay etc etc a chance to race in the big smoke and be competitive with similar horses on a day where a metro meeting is held

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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    Fastmoney said:

    Not sure how people think it works.

    The only significant WA income is from punters on the WATAB.

    What Asians do on the punt has no effect on WA betting income.

    While racing at night has a happy feel, not sure it would make a difference to the bottom line.

    Apart from Friday which is jam packed with racing (highly unlikely to get a spot on Sky) I doubt any other night would produce more betting turnover than the current Wed or Thu meetings.

    Also when Vic or NSW hold a night meet they also hold a day meeting, so the night meeting is on top of the normal program not instead of.


    so where do the asian punters bet then if they were to bet on WA races? 
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  • FastmoneyFastmoney    4,912 posts
    edited April 2016
    The Diva said:

    Fastmoney said:

    Not sure how people think it works.

    The only significant WA income is from punters on the WATAB.

    What Asians do on the punt has no effect on WA betting income.

    While racing at night has a happy feel, not sure it would make a difference to the bottom line.

    Apart from Friday which is jam packed with racing (highly unlikely to get a spot on Sky) I doubt any other night would produce more betting turnover than the current Wed or Thu meetings.

    Also when Vic or NSW hold a night meet they also hold a day meeting, so the night meeting is on top of the normal program not instead of.


    so where do the asian punters bet then if they were to bet on WA races? 
    Tabtouch`s own terms

    Prohibited Jurisdictions

    You acknowledge that due to the laws of the following countries,
    RWWA cannot allow the residents of those countries (the "Prohibited
    Jurisdictions") to open TAB accounts: American Samoa, Aruba, Belgium,
    Bonaire, Saint Eustatius and Saba, Brazil, Czech Republic, China,
    Curacao, Denmark, France, French, Guiana, French Polynesia, French
    Southern Territories, Germany, Guinea, Hong Kong, Hungary, India,
    Indonesia, Iran, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, Macau, Mexico, Netherlands,
    North Korea, Pakistan, Paraguay, Poland, Portugal, Russian Federation,
    Saint Kitts and Nevis, Singapore, Sint Maarten, South Korea, Spain,
    Sweden, Taiwan, Turkey, U.S. Virgin Islands, United Arab Emirates,
    United Kingdom, United States of America, Vietnam.

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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    so where do they bet? 
    on their own tote? 
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  • FastmoneyFastmoney    4,912 posts
    Betting exchanges, some  Aus meetings on their totes but none of it has any financial benefit for WA.
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  • tonytony    2,436 posts
    edited April 2016
    Those meetings which are covered by Singapore tote do get a return to WA (1% of turnover I think) and the same would apply if another country's tote covered the races but Hong Kong for example are only allowed to cover a limited number of "overseas" meetings each year and WA would certainly not be included there.
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  • LuckyLongshotsLuckyLongshots    4,270 posts
    edited April 2016
    When you hear AM say we're up to race 17 for our singapore viewers, why the f&£k is he saying that, if they aren't betting on our racing?

    Surely RWWA/TAB are getting some sort of kickback from the broadcast/punting on our racing - otherwise why bother broadcasting it overseas at all?

    But also that only says those residents can't open an account with them, says nothing about those countries not being able to bet on our product with their own countries totes or exchanges etc.

    Be good to get an actual explanation of what we receive (if anything)
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  • FastmoneyFastmoney    4,912 posts
    edited April 2016
    Perhaps I should have said any significant financial benefit. eg. nothing that will change the current financial position.

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  • FastmoneyFastmoney    4,912 posts
    edited April 2016
    First twilight meeting on Friday December 16th at Ascot with a Saturday feature race meeting the following day.

    30 minute gaps and no requirement for lights.

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  • LuckyLongshotsLuckyLongshots    4,270 posts
    Fastmoney said:

    First twilight meeting on Friday December 16th at Ascot with a Saturday feature race meeting the following day.

    30 minute gaps and no requirement for lights.

    Good news, certainly a good start - wonder whether this will be in place of a midweek meeting that week?  Surely we don't have enough horses to have two Saturday meetings in a two days!
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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,471 posts

    doubt it would be a sat. class meeting, lls.

    doubt they would be short of noms considering the numbers trying to get a start at the provincials...maybe a 7 maiden card...

    :-?
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  • SLIPPERGOLDENSLIPPERGOLDEN    8,410 posts
    A great move in my opinion. I will be there if availability prevails.
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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,471 posts
    availability never seems to come to you, slip..over many years....

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  • SLIPPERGOLDENSLIPPERGOLDEN    8,410 posts
    edited April 2016
    :)) Very good Falcon. Availability does on the rare occasion (have attended on occasions) but then it is down to a lack of interest. I have enjoyed night racing elsewhere and prefer it and if twilight is as close as we can go here for the time being I will support it when I can.
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  • SLIPPERGOLDENSLIPPERGOLDEN    8,410 posts
    edited April 2016
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  • hashhash    7,495 posts
    LuckyLongshots said:

    Fastmoney said:

    First twilight meeting on Friday December 16th at Ascot with a Saturday feature race meeting the following day.

    30 minute gaps and no requirement for lights.

    Good news, certainly a good start - wonder whether this will be in place of a midweek meeting that week?  Surely we don't have enough horses to have two Saturday meetings in a two days
    did they stipulate what year of December the 16th.....
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  • H-BOMBERH-BOMBER    10,567 posts
    In the article that was posted on here it states

    "For the first time, there will be a twilight Friday meeting, on December 16, with a Saturday Ascot feature card to be run the next day.

    And PR is looking to add a Friday twilight meeting to its successful autumn carnival, which concluded with the WATC Derby on Saturday."

    There is no indication here that it will be a metro meeting. Is there somewhere that it states that? The last race on the saturday might be interesting, given 15 races previously in 24 hours

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  • paraleticparaletic    3,750 posts
    edited April 2016

     

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  • AceVAceV    181 posts
    That goat track will be in good nick by about race 2 on the Saturday....
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