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RIP Elite Belle

West Australian Racing
H-BOMBERH-BOMBER    10,567 posts
edited January 2015 West Australian Racing
Sad news this norning as Elite Belle suffers heart attack in plane to eastern stakea. Unbeleivable
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  • ChrisChris    5,736 posts
    Always the good ones..,
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  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts
    Horses hey..............
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  • therealkramertherealkramer    8,008 posts
    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :((
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  • WizardWizard    3,611 posts
    This is very sad. She was going to give it to them in the eastern states.
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  • LuckyLongshotsLuckyLongshots    4,270 posts
    Tragic - what a horse, went out a winner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • AndrewCarterAndrewCarter    2,171 posts
    Shocking bad luck, Bob would be devastated as she was a very valuable broodmare.
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  • ChrisChris    5,736 posts
    edited January 2015
    Carnival stars Gilded Venom and Elite Belle in close proximity
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  • CPLCPL    632 posts
    All the bad accidents these days involve planes :(
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  • notapuntanotapunta    938 posts
    Rip Elite Belle, my heart goes out to all involved with this champion.
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  • 60somethink60somethink    16 posts
    No autopsy? Under normal circumstances as an owner I would insist upon one. But if something was in the system that is illegal then you wouldn't. Therefore the air carrier cannot be held responsible for any misconduct. Comments? I have travelled horses safely sedated on planes no problems.
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  • RIORIO    14,902 posts
    60somethink said:

    No autopsy? Under normal circumstances as an owner I would insist upon one. But if something was in the system that is illegal then you wouldn't. Therefore the air carrier cannot be held responsible for any misconduct. Comments? I have travelled horses safely sedated on planes no problems.

    I've got one comment...I agree...but if the horse wasn't insured and the travel carries no insurance - my understanding unless it was by a aircraft accident, and even then it is very limited. No legal requirement.

    I got told - second hand - that it was straight from plane to burial plot.

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  • AndrewCarterAndrewCarter    2,171 posts
    I'm sorry but you guys at times are seriously idiots.

    The horse wasn't racing, wasn't in work and wasn't about to race anytime soon and it was a very valuable broodmare owned by Bob Peters, get a grip, something illegal in its system, please.

    Talk about conspiracy theory nonsense.

    Take a step back and examine what you have actually written and you might realize the absurdity of it.
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  • RIORIO    14,902 posts
    Andrew Carter said:

    I'm sorry but you guys at times are seriously idiots.

    The horse wasn't racing, wasn't in work and wasn't about to race anytime soon and it was a very valuable broodmare owned by Bob Peters, get a grip, something illegal in its system, please.

    Talk about conspiracy theory nonsense.

    Take a step back and examine what you have actually written and you might realize the absurdity of it.

    its high quality journalism, based on ideologies like that which is wonderfully good at making sure nothing is investigated.. Go back to the community paper your write for and wait for the special people to tell you what to cut and paste from the real journalists
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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,505 posts
    could she have had an adverse reaction to the sedative given to animals before a flight?
    I am sure it was "just one of those things"..we must understand that we mere mortals often just drop dead from a heart attack after having been in what was perceived as being" in the pink" healthwise.
    animals are no different...my cat, merlot, after having her dinner and going outside for a few minutes, came inside, gave a meow and dropped dead....heart attack!!

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  • fifodynamofifodynamo    243 posts
    RIP Merlot ,,and Elite Belle
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  • RIORIO    14,902 posts

    Agree falc..Could've been dozens of reason and any combination..the suggestion was made by one person who has travelled horse before that he would've done an autopsy to find out why.. I agreed.

    Then cut and paste nominee of the year says we're all conspiracy theorist and bases it on the value of the horse!!!!! WTF

    Elite Belle was a champion race horse that had a heart attack whilst travelling. That is a massive loss for our industry and a really bitter pill for the owners to swallow....leave the other crap to another thread and don't diminish her worth on this one...

    60Somethink just asked for comments about what people would do, as they would do an autopsy. Then MR Look at me stuff up another thread goes feral for people being asked to give an opinion on a site that is only operating for people to put up opinions!!!!!  Phuck ME!!!!!

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  • magoo83magoo83    969 posts
    More to it than just a heart attack what I've heard around the traps, I will not divulge unless it becomes public, as you know racing is full of hearsay

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  • SHOVHOGSHOVHOG    1,792 posts
    RIO said:

    Andrew Carter said:

    I'm sorry but you guys at times are seriously idiots.

    The horse wasn't racing, wasn't in work and wasn't about to race anytime soon and it was a very valuable broodmare owned by Bob Peters, get a grip, something illegal in its system, please.

    Talk about conspiracy theory nonsense.

    Take a step back and examine what you have actually written and you might realize the absurdity of it.

    its high quality journalism, based on ideologies like that which is wonderfully good at making sure nothing is investigated.. Go back to the community paper your write for and wait for the special people to tell you what to cut and paste from the real journalists
    That last bit made me laugh... Thanks

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  • Ferris273Ferris273    10 posts
    Surely their not conspiracy theorists as you say for saying an autopsy should be done?? Especially with all the media around the issues in Victoria and side effects that has.........if your clean, do the autopsy and then all the "conspiracy theorists" you speak of Andrew will have to retract. Until then what makes your opinion more realistic than theirs?????

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  • paraleticparaletic    3,750 posts
    edited January 2015

    You know when you don't do an autopsy? When you have a plugger going around up Meekatharra way who can barely put one hoof out in front of the other. If it drops dead then you could be forgiven for not wanting one done.

     

     

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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,505 posts
    careful boys, this site has many more readers than contributors, and some of them have very full pockets.

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  • therealkramertherealkramer    8,008 posts
    the falcon said:

    careful boys, this site has many more readers than contributors, and some of them have very full pockets.


    :-h

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  • DarkhorseDarkhorse    666 posts
    Should have checked the black box flight recorder.
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  • RodentRodent    7,483 posts
    Didn't Bob Peters have Greg Harper train for him?

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  • RIORIO    14,902 posts
    Rodent said:

    Didn't Bob Peters have Greg Harper train for him?

    to make it even more questionable, hasn't Bob's current trainer had 2 dodgy foreman rubbed out recently?
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  • Thoroly_BreadThoroly_Bread    2,348 posts
    I like where this is going :-\"

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  • 60somethink60somethink    16 posts
    Andrew Carter when you fly a horse internationally a vet goes with them, plus they have to be insured. Interstate they only have a handler and a valuable mare like Elite Belle normally would be insured too. I ask you with no vet who could determined what she died of isn't a responsibilty to do an autopsy?
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  • AmyquilAmyquil    250 posts
    the falcon said:

    careful boys, this site has many more readers than contributors, and some of them have very full pockets.

    Here he goes again.
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  • RexRex    406 posts
    Rodent said:

    Didn't Bob Peters have Greg Harper train for him?

    Yes he did train for him. Greg Harper has won a total of 21 group 1 winners in pacing and gallopers. Not many other have that record.

    It is also interesting to look back on the breeding records of the group and black type races that he won with Peters horses to note that they all bred on with winning foals.

    The only positive swab he ever had was bi-carb that you can buy from you local deli, it is not a drug.

    It is common knowledge that most of his swabs were frozen for retesting all with negative results.

    For all his knockers he is a top horseman.


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  • AmyquilAmyquil    250 posts
    Andrew Carter said:

    Shocking bad luck, Bob would be devastated as she was a very valuable broodmare.

    He doesn't sell their progeny does he?
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