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I'm not sayng ban children from race courses - I'm just saying to my mind there's more value in promoting the sport to adults.
Have family race days, they're great events but not every race day needs to have children's promotions.
Like I said I'll agree to disagree on this one.
;)
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perth racing membership part of salary package?
just like the hbf cover ect they already provide
gee that'll get all the do gooders that are already against fifo going :))
bloody pity gina and twiggy are not race goers....
I don't quite understand this need to 'occupy'. When my Dad used to take me, I watched the bloody horses parade around the ring, I watched the jockeys get legged up, I watched the bookies put on a bit of theartre, I watched Dad circle horses names in hte race book. I was enthralled. None of this jumpy castle crap - Dad wouldn't of bothered taking me if all I was going to do was go and play on a play ground manned by some bogan sucking back winnie blues so he could duck off and have a punt and a beer.
Remembering this was back in the day, (and I dont condone this) when Dad would still probably have half a dozen cans and drive us home. Now, you just can't do that anymore, but Dad would not bother going to the races if he can't have a beer, and he wouldn't have dreamed of loading me and my brother into a taxi so we could just go on a couple of jumpy castles.
I am no closer to knowing what the answer is, or for that matter, the question.
I fully intend getting my kids hooked too. They've been to the races plenty, but I took them all to Flemington a few weeks back and for the first time my 8 year old started to show some interest. I was proud as punch B-)
If that doesn't win me Father of the Year, what will?
wow what hubris - you're saying that we need to know and respect who you are and what your high status is, before we comment ???? Pifffh
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Is not the go
Give me a break !
It's about building new clients new punters
= dollars
It's not rocket science
You have no delete delete
They want to be seen, to be social and enjoy themselves.
Facebook pictures in nice trendy bars scattered round the course. Selling wraps and cheap Asian foods and salads, and other healthy shit, that us old bastards don’t get into. Along with colour, glitz, public transport and taxi ranks that work.. They want to get there, be seen, have fun and then get out and go to the next place. They aren’t massive drinkers, but they are steady and want to get the balance right. But they want to be seen in a good spot. A $200 day is not expensive for them if they are seen and it is trendy.
Imagine being caught in that photo that Diva put up. You’d want to f...ing hide in embarrassment!!!!! Imagine if 40 people were sitting in a small bar with a wall of TV screens on one side behind the bar, automatic tote machines on the other and seating at dome type booth seats down the middle for 10 groups of 6-8 people???? they'd all want their photos taken.
The crowds are smaller, make the venue to suit the market and they will come, be seen and come back again...but what would I know?? I’m close 50..go ask a 30yr old what they want. And give it to them.
My preference is to attract more adults (and as I stated earlier, preferably 20+ males) to the industry and Rio's comments re looking at the 25-35yo market has great merit as there is a higher amount of disposable income in this demographic.
It's a bit sad that in your opinion I have no idea. I would have hoped that members of this forum would be open to debate and not simply dismissive when they encounter alternative views to their own.
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whats that bar/room just under the grandstand...the king edward?? never seems to be occupied, that could be outfitted, maybe extended by glass looking out onto the lawn area.
on the other hand..just look at that white jumbo, the pr lounge. admittedly it looks like a dungeon...give that a bit of glitz.
just thinking out loud....
Families ?
Because they don't generate any revenue ?
First of all offer value To get people back to the track
They will come but that will take time .
Taking a long term view begin with the end in mind .
Slowly the revenue will increase
But getting people to attend should be the first
Task at hand .
At that means anybody and everybody from all walks of life including families ?
Don't just target individual democratic age brackets
Promote value for money
And the dollars will flow
KISS
It's the price of doing business...but only if it is what that age bracket want.. The dungeon iss shocking and should be used as an over flow area only
then there is the problem of trying to get a taxi.
1- easy free parking in members' cap park - no gateman you see.
2 free access through the members' gate as there is no badge checker or they've knock off early.
3 - newly permitted (not really) but now available - easy access to horse stalls area with one guard for three gates - the kids can even follow.
4. able to take your drink anywhere - although you might have to walk a fair way as several bars have closed/ downsized.
Ahh the Silver Lining of the cost cutting cloud for us pleb.'s
people? there is nothing on their site with information or packages for these types of groups :-/ could be a real winner if it was promoted well.........
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Bucks and Hens parties are simply trouble and an additional headache for secutity, racegoers and did I mention cleaners?
Take my advice and don't go there..
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this is not the message the club wants to send out.... in fact, without doing it, this is what the club is promoting.....
governments are trying to send a drink wise message to the community and this sort of activity would not be supported, ultimately when the going gets very very tough and we require support it will be taken into consideration
sadly i take my son to the races only to see a bloke dressed in a sunday best dress full up to the eyeballs, yes he has given the club some money but i can assure you that it will be the only time they go to the races in 2 years.... they are not REGULAR race goers and do not foster healthy demographic distribution, messy bucks days simple harm the integrity of the sport
would you see a bucks day at a footy game? no because they do not tolerate drinking, they promote families!
one of my big issues is the club makes almost as much in grog sales as it does in tote revenue on course, this club is rapidly turning into a drinking club not a racing club.... other revenue streams are required
I think it'd be good to cater for them..give them arm bands for discounted drinks - maybe in that horrible PR Dungeon - access to members car park for bus pick up and drop off, entry, race book...and $20/head for a normal Saturday..
Reckon it has got merit..they are usually groups of about 10-20 and I've never known one that hasn't gone somewhere after the races, so the problems get moved on, and they re all known and if they re booked in, someone is responsible for the group or any damage that is done.
Not sure about the merits of discounted drinks so that the problem can be started and then moved on.
At least if they do a package deal and parties are booked in, they will know the days to have a few extra people on board for potential security issues.. or a few people for security under 60 and over 170cm!!!