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Ascot closing meeting 28th April.

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TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
edited November -1 West Australian Racing
some tricky small fields for the closer at Ascot.

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  • rickrick    487 posts
    Yeah Diva agree maybe some trainers holding there horses back untill belmont starts still thou there is still a winner in every race so good luck if having a bet.
  • JazzHJazzH    314 posts
    R7 - CANARDLY MISS & DEMPSEY both good e/w hopes at around the $8-$10 mark - happy punting
  • free entry should ensure a big crowd
  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,949 posts
    Crowd figures must surely be at an all time low. This past few weeks of quality racing have been met with a yawn by the race going public, but more so the Members of Perth Racing. They just haven't bothered to turn up for their own feature races.

    Only for the Karrakatta Plate, can I recall seeing the top deck close to 60% occupied. The Sires was less than 10% seats filled.

    I actually think they may be doing better with public attendances than in previous seasons, but from where I stand there is nothing but empty seats in every shot of the grandstand.
  • thefalconthefalcon    20,471 posts
    quality of food and criminal drink prices?
    people are not mugs...
  • [DeletedUser][DeletedUser]    0 posts
    Times are changing and fast like the tide that moves under your feet if race clubs dont move soon there will be no reason to have a grandstand any more.It will be from a past.Sadly i think that its to late now time has moved on and the game in many respects wont ever be were it was.In saying that punting will still go on from home and thats were the game is headed in my view unless changes are made like free entry for a start.But the fact is we have missed 20 or 30 years of kids who have grown up doing other things thats the real issue if race clubs think they will get them back by charging them to get in then all the other stuff like drinks ect that are far to much they have no hope in my view.U have to get them interested first its not 1960 any more plenty of other things to do now days u have to change.
  • thefalconthefalcon    20,471 posts
    well said. the only young folk there are celebrating bucks days...and don't bet...
    they should try free entry...maybe for the first 4 belmont meetings.
    AND look at the food and grog situation.
    30 bucks for a bottle of "bubbly" that retails for 7. fair go!!!
  • RIORIO    14,902 posts
    I wouldn't put any weight to how many members are sitting outside..apart from a judgement of how many members are pissed because they cant get a seat inside!!!

    The members at Ascot are just adequate for a normal Saturday...abysmal for a feature day...and Belmont is shocking..really shocking for any day. I have been assured that in 5 years if everything goes okay they will fix it...but the reality of the situation is that it could be as long as 10 years before they start the reno's on Belmont...And it is conditional on other building projects being completed and sold!!!

    If you want members then they have to be able to go to the races and enjoy the experience, provide the facility for them..both members areas are adequate for the aging members, but if you want young people you need to provide more..lots more...and the members should have to pay for it..this is the only club that i have been a member of where you pay higher than pub prices for the drinks!!! WTF?????? For goodness sake raise the price of membership and lower the price of drinks.

    Provide Wifi on course for all patrons, closed in areas with aircon and comfortable seating for public and members. Allow anyone to stand on the finish line..or closer than currently is the situation..both mounting yards block them off...have you been to the dungeon at Belmont if you win??? Is that how you really want to show your appreciation for supplying a city winning horse????

    The list of things wrong is so long it is amazing that past board members can walk around in the belief that they have done their best....it has been years of pathetic ineptness that leaves both metro facilities in desperate need of upgrades..Compare the improvements at Pinjarra and Bunbury over the past 5 years..comparatively make the city tracks look amateurish!!

    Anyway, ism sure I'll get another phone call, e-mail or please explain....but the problem at PR wont be solved by one person in a short period of time...however if they wait until they get a return from the proposed development.....it may be too long for the industry to wait..

    Oh and we(sorry i) shouldn't just blame PR..although i suspect they have mis-managed money at times..IMO...RWWA as the funding body also carries a portion of the blame for the condition of the clubs around the state... IMO
  • RIORIO    14,902 posts
    Sorry for the above rant...Should've deleted it and put it under another heading...very frustrating situation with the club, that's all...hope the new bloke makes a difference.

    Tight little fields but should be competitive on Saturday, chance for a few roughies to catch us off guard again..even with the rail in a true position.
  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,949 posts
    said:

    Sorry for the above rant...Should've deleted it and put it under another heading...very frustrating situation with the club, that's all...hope the new bloke makes a difference.

    Tight little fields but should be competitive on Saturday, chance for a few roughies to catch us off guard again..even with the rail in a true position.

    Why apologise ? The new CEO will have almost no impact on the direction of Perth Racing. In his introduction package to the media it showed just how much of a task he has in front of him. He wants to strengthen ties with the Govt, but he doesn't even understand that he is the CEO of just a Club, nothing more. RWWA runs this Industry, not Perth Racing.
  • RIORIO    14,902 posts
    The apology was due to the comments needing to be on another thread, not one that talks about the racing on Saturday.

    I wonder if the Manager of the Kulin Race Club is working hard at developing a better rapport with the government????? Agree totally that he is only in charge of a club.....the other thing to remember is that he is not in charge of the direction of the club....that is set by the board...he just manages their wishes......Thought he'd be busy enough with club issues instead of going to the government trying to do the work that RWWA are meant to be doing!!!

    Lets go back to the racing.....
  • TheFunksterTheFunkster    3,840 posts
    See Rio, you feel better after a little rant at the people running/ruining (optional choice) racing in Perth :wink:
  • JasonPolettiJasonPoletti    21 posts
    Online punting is the blame,more people this coming season will stay home and punt-not sure how they will turn this around maybe a big tax and inject this quick fix back into racing :?:
  • RIORIO    14,902 posts
    said:

    Online punting is the blame,more people this coming season will stay home and punt-not sure how they will turn this around maybe a big tax and inject this quick fix back into racing :?:

    It has contributed...but if that is where the money is embrass it and get those people(or some of them) to come to a comfortable spot on track with WiFi lounges and bars. The clubs/associations still make money out of it with the latest court decision..not as much as on player..but the change has taken place so you can't fight it. Have food and drinks at pub prices in these special bars for like minded peole.....Bit like the PR.comlounge..(but for members only).nominal membership fee and a spot that is for those punters with all the stuff they need to relax and enjoy..maybe a $100 - for 12 month membership..single only no guest pass..Spend about $200k to dress up a spot at each track for 80 - 100 people and you have made the effort.....If after 2 years it doesn't take off then it is another members lounge!!!!!

    Not that sure i feel better Funk...but it did do the job of a slight realease.....just wrote another paragraph and realised that i was off again...so deleted that one!!!! :lol: :lol:
  • RIORIO    14,902 posts
    Travinator...e/w in the second with only 6 horses in the race????? what colour dress you going to wear tomorrow Matt???? :cheeky:
  • thefalconthefalcon    20,471 posts
    i'm in the chair for the charles punters club 2morrow.
    25/25 seths best.
    tread careful it is a VERY tricky card....rons call..huge lay.
    have a look at cassidy cowboy in the last....pjh's only ride.
  • RIORIO    14,902 posts
    I actually like Solsay.......No weight, small field, should get the front with the rail in the true..Step up in class, but over it's pet distance... 8/1...if there was another horse in the race it'd be a good e/w bet!!!!!!..but might have a shot at him..if Ron's Call is close to his best, i'll be doing my money...again :o
  • pistol17pistol17    49 posts
    Greg Hooper's Preview:

    ASCOT Saturday 28 April 2012

    RACE 1 - AMELIA PARK WINES HANDICAP 1100m

    No. 1 BROCKY'S DEAL? We kick off the day with a race for the juveniles. (1) BROCKY'S DEAL could not have been more impressive on debut, coming from the tail and blowing his rivals away in the straight. If he reproduces that effort, he'll go very close. (9) NIGHT TRAIN put in an extremely impressive 400m trial, winning by 3 lengths under a hand brake. If there is a positive market lead, it must be respected. (10) SWEET MALOO ran a solid second to the top weight last start. She'll sit right over the speed and give a good kick home. (7) FLEETING TIME won on debut up the Pinjarra straight. This is a step up but from her inside draw, she should get all the favours in running.

    Numbers - 1, 9, 10, 7

    RACE 2 - AMELIA PARK BEEF HANDICAP 1100m

    No. 3 TRAVINATOR - This should be an intriguing little race as it contains a couple of classy three-year-olds. Without a great deal of confidence I'll go for (3) TRAVINATOR. He has raced twice this preparation for two very good wins and his only career defeat came up the Pinjarra straight when he threw the race away. (1) MODELLO is another smart customer. He was dominant when he won first up and then was going to start an odds on favourite at Pinjarra until he crashed through the gate and ran a lap around the course. Provided he has taken no harm from that incident, he looks a big chance. (2) SUCCESS PARK trialled nicely for his return to the track. He'll get back but should rattle home late. (5) NINE TENORS has always had ability and she put it all together at her last outing when she won nicely up the Pinjarra straight.

    Numbers - 3, 1, 2, 5

    RACE 3 - JACKSON'S RESTAURANT HANDICAP 1200m

    No.5 RON'S CALL - There looks to be good speed in this race which will hopefully set it up for the classy three-year-old, (5) RON'S CALL. He was beaten as an odds on chance when he resumed from a spell but his effort was still very good. He missed the kick and settled a mile off them but found the line strongly over the concluding stages. The step up to 1200m looks ideal and if he is within striking distance at the turn, I think he'll make amends for his first up defeat. (2) METAL TALK looks the obvious danger again. He was given the gun run in transit last start and was always travelling like a winner. He should tuck in just behind the speed again and he'll look the winner somewhere in the straight. (6) SOLSAY is racing in good form; he'll find the front and give them something to rundown. (7) ALMACHINO takes on the older gallopers for the first time but she'll appreciate the weight relief and she looms with each way claims.

    Numbers - 5, 2, 6, 7

    RACE 4 - AMELIA PARK LAMB HANDICAP 1400m

    No. 4 MENDICITY - There looks to be limited winning chances in this three-year-old event. I'm happy to give (4) MENDICITY another chance after her disappointing first up effort. However, she did have genuine excuses as she missed the start and settled a mile off them in a race which was dominated by the leaders. Importantly, she wasn't knocked around late. If she can jump well and box seat from her inside draw, she'll be hard to beat. There was a stack of money for (3) BUSTABILL first up and he was only a neck off landing the prize. He should have improved by that effort and the 1400m looks ideal. (6) CAT FIVE has returned to racing in good form this preparation. He didn't have the best of luck at his most recent outing. He was crowded in the straight but with the right run, he looms with each way claims again. (1) AVE THE SNIP is a tough, consistent type who will settle in the first couple and give a strong kick home.

    Numbers - 4, 3, 6, 1

    RACE 5 - AMELIA PARK BURGERS HANDICAP 2100m

    No. 1 SUPER HAWK - This staying event lacks any depth and for that reason I'll stick with (1) SUPER HAWK who brings the best form into the race. He ran just behind the placegetters in both the Bunbury and Pinjarra Cups, then won in town and last Sunday ran a close up third in the Narrogin Cup. From his good draw, he should get a soft run and prove hard to hold out. (2) FAIR HUNTER worked double time last week when he was caught three wide for the first half of the event. He did a very good job to only be beaten by a couple of lengths. With a softer run, he should go very close. (6) LUMINOL has been racing consistently. He lacks a knockout blow but if he can dictate terms up front, he has each way claims. (4) CRISPIANO has been a wallet burner for the punters but if he can produce his best, he certainly can play a big part.

    Numbers - 1, 2, 6, 4

    RACE 6 - SOUTHERN HABITAT WHOLESALE NURSERY HANDICAP 2100m

    No. 2 CHESTER ROAD - There is a bit more depth to this staying race as opposed to the previous event. (2) CHESTER ROAD looked to have the race at his mercy last start but after kicking 3 lengths clear in the straight, he was nailed right near the post. Saturday's assignment looks ideal and I think he'll break through for his first win this preparation. (4) SOUND BARRIER gets up to a staying trip for the first time this campaign and he should acquit himself well. He put in an eye catching effort at his most recent outing where he flooded home over the mile on a day that had a distinct leader bias. (1) STOMPIN is in career best form and he looms with strong claims again. He missed the kick at his most recent outing and as a result, settled in an unfamiliar position back in the field. However, it didn't stop him as he motored home late and gave his rivals a galloping exhibition. (5) ENDLESS SACRIFICE is in solid form at the provincials and she looks to have solid top four claims.

    Numbers - 2, 4, 1, 5

    RACE 7 - $80,000 LISTED AMELIA PARK - YORK STAKES 1600m

    No. 7 OUR OL' FELLA - This appears to be a very wide open event with numerous winning chances. I have been really impressed with the two runs of (7) OUR OL' FELLA this preparation and despite the fact that he rises in grade and sharply in distance, I think he'll take some beating. (2) MABEL GRACE brought herself undone at her most recent outing when she over-raced badly and had nothing to give in the straight. There looks to be a lot more top end speed in this event and that should assist in getting her to settle. (5) GUM NUT GURU was given no chance last week when he was shuffled back mid race and was left wide without cover for the final 600m. A senior rider goes on which is a positive and I think he'll prove hard to beat. (1) BATTLE EMBLEM is a warrior who comes off a last start win in the Grandstand Cup. The weight will make it very difficult but he can never be discounted.

    Numbers - 7, 2, 5, 1

    RACE 8 - AMELIA PARK ESTATE HANDICAP 1200m

    No. 9 NAVARDA LAD - This looks to be a wide open finish to the day. (9) NAVARDA LAD resumes from a spell and is hoping to add to his perfect first up record. His recent barrier trial effort was very good and I think he just needs a little luck from his wide draw to play a major part. (1) ROUGE DIOR returns from a freshen up. She's a very classy mare when on song and she should get the lovely run in transit from her good gate. (7) CASSIDY COWBOY dominated his rivals when he resumed at Pinjarra, it was an arrogant win. Paul Harvey goes on so he's a definite winning chance again. (5) MONEY FOR CASH is a get back runner who always needs luck in his races but he should be rattling home late again.

    Numbers - 9, 1, 7, 5
  • dungydungy    9,278 posts
    Modello into Rons Call thats me ,Smith loves to rap his horses and reckons this is about the best he has so thats good enough for me
  • track rating a GOOD2 :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
  • cruisercruiser    149 posts
    Rons call too short at $1.90! I like impatient times in The3rd
  • TheTenthTenorTheTenthTenor    58 posts
    Hoping for another good run today from nine tenors - if she keeps improving she will keep winning
  • RodentRodent    7,446 posts
    Why is the track a Good 2 before a race has been run? Has there been a change of protocol as far as track watering is concerned?
  • thefalconthefalcon    20,471 posts
    God only knows, rodent!! :roll:
  • yes it wasnt watered this week being the last meeting
  • thefalconthefalcon    20,471 posts
    in that case it should have been made public...
    were you on "track spy alert" alll week, bc? :lol:
  • careycarey    6,424 posts
    said:

    Why is the track a Good 2 before a race has been run? Has there been a change of protocol as far as track watering is concerned?

    21/04/2012 MS 6.4 12.8 DEAD4
    14/04/2012 MS 6.4 14.6 GOOD3
    11/04/2012 MM 6.5 8.3 DEAD4
    07/04/2012 MS 6.5 9.1 GOOD3
    04/04/2012 MM 6.4 5.4 DEAD4
    31/03/2012 MS 6.5 13.6 GOOD3
    24/03/2012 MS 6.4 -3.8 GOOD3
    21/03/2012 MM 6.5 -3.3 GOOD3
    17/03/2012 MS 6.5 2.2 GOOD3
    10/03/2012 MS 6.5 11.8 GOOD3
    07/03/2012 MM 6.4 12.6 GOOD3
    03/03/2012 MS 6.4 7.9 GOOD3
    29/02/2012 MM 6.4 -1.6 GOOD3
    25/02/2012 MS 6.4 7.9 GOOD3
    22/02/2012 MM 6.4 0.2 GOOD3
    18/02/2012 MS 6.5 12.9 GOOD3
    11/02/2012 MS 6.5 8 GOOD3
    08/02/2012 MM 6.1 -3.1 GOOD3
    04/02/2012 MS 6.4 11.8 GOOD3
    01/02/2012 MM 6.4 4.7 DEAD4
    28/01/2012 MS 6.7 15 GOOD3
    21/01/2012 MS 6.4 14.4 GOOD3
    18/01/2012 MM 6.4 -2.8 GOOD3
    14/01/2012 MS 6.4 5.4 GOOD3
    07/01/2012 MS 6.6 15.1 DEGO
    31/12/2011 MS 6.7 9.5 GOOD3
    24/12/2011 MS 6.5 2.1 GOOD3
    21/12/2011 MM 6.1 9.6 GOOD3
    17/12/2011 MS 6.6 2.9 GOOD3
    14/12/2011 MM 0 -2.1 DEGO
    10/12/2011 MS 6.7 5.1 GOOD3
    07/12/2011 MM 6.4 3.5 DEAD4
    03/12/2011 MS 6.6 -0.9 GOOD3
    26/11/2011 MS 6.5 16.5 GOOD3
    23/11/2011 MM 6.3 -15.9 GOOD3
    19/11/2011 MS 6.5 -1.4 GOOD3
    12/11/2011 MS 6.3 12.9 GOOD3
    09/11/2011 MM 6.3 -0.4 GOOD3
    05/11/2011 MS 6.4 1.6 DEAD4
    01/11/2011 MM 6.3 -4 GOOD3
    29/10/2011 MS 0 -8.5 GOOD3
    26/10/2011 MM 6.5 12.9 DEAD5
    22/10/2011 MS 6.3 8.6 GOOD3
    19/10/2011 MM 6.3 7.5 GOOD3
    15/10/2011 MS 6.2 -9.5 GOOD3
    30/04/2011 MS 5.9 1.1 GOOD2

    so there has not been an official good2 since the last season, when they mostly all were.
    but there is difference in their readings than to what it is in actuality.
    perhaps it will be the same today.
    and regardless , to say it is a good2 now, reeks of amateurism, if it really is one, because it demonstrates they don't appear to have any protocol
  • RIORIO    14,902 posts
    I reckon they like declaring a good 3 just before the racing starts..or soon after...so they were hoping for rain - already had a sprinkle - so they can DOWN grade it to a good 3...

    See all makes sense now...no matter what the real conditions are just end up with a good 3 at race time :lol: :lol:

    Don't know why so many of you guys over complicate things :lol:
  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,949 posts
    The heavens have looked like they were going to break for the last couple of hours, so the track conditions may change rather quickly.

    A respected Trainer has told me that he is so concerned with the state of the track that he didn't nominate any of his decent horses, preferring to hold them over to Belmont, for no other reason than safety.

    As I said a few weeks ago, I noticed more dirt flying in the last 6 weeks than almost all of the season prior to that time.
  • said:

    in that case it should have been made public...
    were you on "track spy alert" alll week, bc? :lol:

    it is public u idiot - on the website
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