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ASCOT Saturday 21/04/2012

West Australian Racing
plugerpluger    774 posts
edited November -1 West Australian Racing
Only a couple look at me for the weekend:

Rafferty* - i can only see pike beating it..should run over all of these (take the $2.80)
The Tenby Friar*e/w - ultra consistent, smaller field and J Brown back aboard, should sit in a perfect position and look the winner in the straight (take best tote)

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  • Can anyone explain to me why the 2100m is restricted to just 12 runners?
  • careycarey    6,424 posts
    said:

    Can anyone explain to me why the 2100m is restricted to just 12 runners?

    i just went searching for the reason, but got sidetracked when this popped up.

    http://www.perthracing.com.au/racing.aspx?MenuID=110


    i can't stop laughing, it must have been written in the days bc(before carey!! :lol: )

    for eg......

    Long Odds
    More than 10/1. eg. dividend of $5.50 or more.
  • RodentRodent    7,446 posts
    Rubbish Carey......we all know it was pounds shillings and pence when you started punting :lol:
  • careycarey    6,424 posts
    said:

    Rubbish Carey......we all know it was pounds shillings and pence when you started punting :lol:

    um what year did that happen? :lol:

    actually i was just starting when racing went metric(1972 i think), think that was after ?sd
  • RodentRodent    7,446 posts
    When I had my first bet as a child, betting was in 25c units so 10-1 was $2.75 :D
  • careycarey    6,424 posts
    said:

    When I had my first bet as a child, betting was in 25c units so 10-1 was $2.75 :D

    i can't remember .25 units in vic?
    can only remember .5
    don't think i had ever had a bet before i was 18 or 19.
  • GhurkaGhurka    254 posts
    Metric was 1967
  • careycarey    6,424 posts
    said:

    Metric was 1967

    bloody hell, 3 years after melbourne's last flag!!!

    so you're wrong rodent!!

    i was still in school, and the only interest i had in racing was all the local stable girls. :roll:
  • lordwaterlordwater    1,127 posts
    said:

    said:

    Rubbish Carey......we all know it was pounds shillings and pence when you started punting :lol:

    um what year did that happen? :lol:

    actually i was just starting when racing went metric(1972 i think), think that was after ?sd
    1966.
  • careycarey    6,424 posts
    :lol: :lol:
    captain cook hadn't yet been born mr lordwater.
    did you put yor glesses on whan tiping? :lol:
  • careycarey    6,424 posts
    too late!
  • RIORIO    14,902 posts
    said:

    Can anyone explain to me why the 2100m is restricted to just 12 runners?

    Maybe with the rail out 6m they feel it could get a bit tight if they all went past the post for the first time 8-10 wide????? the 2100 start is close to that bend but, can't believe that'd be the reason, just all i could think of.
  • careycarey    6,424 posts
    said:

    said:

    Can anyone explain to me why the 2100m is restricted to just 12 runners?

    Maybe with the rail out 6m they feel it could get a bit tight if they all went past the post for the first time 8-10 wide????? the 2100 start is close to that bend but, can't believe that'd be the reason, just all i could think of.
    that has to be the reason.
    i was looking for, but couldn't find, a document that gives field size limits for each distance at each track depending on rail possy.
    there has to be(or should be), one somewhere.
  • DownbythepalmsDownbythepalms    381 posts
    Agree Pluger took the $2.80 about Rafferty and I think Elyssa Grace a nice chance also at nice ew odds
  • surely that cant be the reason

    only a few weeks ago in the Natasha over 2200m with the rail in the 6m position they ran 14 runners

    they also had 14 acceptors from the 2200m when the rail was in the 9m position
  • RIORIO    14,902 posts
    maybe the extra 100m makes all the difference :?

    Still struggle to believe it could be that.......but struggling even more to come up with another reason..

    C'mon Matty or Chris, get hold of one your buddy's at PR and let us know :)
  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    ill email them and find out if you like. would it be RWWA/stewards?
  • tonytony    2,436 posts
    said:

    surely that cant be the reason

    only a few weeks ago in the Natasha over 2200m with the rail in the 6m position they ran 14 runners

    they also had 14 acceptors from the 2200m when the rail was in the 9m position

    Pretty standard around the country to reduce the numbers when the start is closer to a bend.
  • RIORIO    14,902 posts
    said:

    ill email them and find out if you like. would it be RWWA/stewards?

    Due to it being a track setting and field restriction i reckon it'd be Perth Racing?!?!?!?!

    But reckon any of the stewards would know.
  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    Ok, its definitely due to rail position and safety.
    the stewards and jockeys make the decision in conjunction.
  • TheTenthTenorTheTenthTenor    58 posts
    Scrapindipity to take out the 6th
  • RIORIO    14,902 posts
    Okay..time to put the neck on the line..

    Rafferty and Maschino both pick themselves, but regularly don't quite do the job..so will leave them alone..

    Going a bit wide for my two bets this weekend..

    Race 7 Felined - last start winner and cant see anything with better form in the race...Full Clip (you could argue that he is in better form) and Elyssa Grace the dangers.

    Race 6 Pippaline - no trial this campaign and does well 3 or 4 runs into her campaigns when she goes up in distance...Should be able to get good e/w odds.

    The rest will be selected with the aid of a dartboard :lol: :lol:
  • dungydungy    9,278 posts
    Agree with Rafferty and Maschino but my best is Elusive Image went past The Social Network last start like it was stuck to the fence then she came out TSN and ran 3rd in the Derby thats good enough for me small field 9 runners out the back then come with 1 run like last start its Mother won an Oaks so she is screaming for the 1800m 3.40 good price for mine .
    Good Punting everyone
  • cruisercruiser    149 posts
    Secret enigma to show some cheek
  • DarkDark    909 posts
    said:

    said:

    Can anyone explain to me why the 2100m is restricted to just 12 runners?

    i just went searching for the reason, but got sidetracked when this popped up.

    http://www.perthracing.com.au/racing.aspx?MenuID=110


    i can't stop laughing, it must have been written in the days bc(before carey!! :lol: )

    for eg......

    Long Odds
    More than 10/1. eg. dividend of $5.50 or more.
    At the risk of sounding silly, surely they just have the terminology incorrect... replace dividend with return and it makes sense (i think :? )
  • careycarey    6,424 posts
    units were once $.50, (technically they still are), so the 5.5 being 10/1 is correct.....for a long long time ago.
    a declared divvy of 5.5 is of course now equivalent to 9/2
    think they have just grabbed something from bc and never bothered updating it.

    it's actually an interesting subject.
    if you have a .5 on something and you are the only winner you get the pool.
    how can that be if it's not a full unit?
  • DarkDark    909 posts
    Not sure... take the quaddie for instance, quite often in Singapore (and i'm letting everyone in on a pure goldmine here) the dividend is much more than the total in the pool (presumably because the winner/s have less then 1 unit).

    http://www.tab.com.au/Racing/Information/Results/DisplayDetailedView.aspx?State=1&MeetingCode=L&RacingCode=R&FromDate=2012-04-08T00:00:00&RaceNumber=12

    Different subject, but anyone who puts in even a little effort can get quaddies in Singapore that regularly pay 5 - 10 times what an all up of the same horses would pay.
  • ColdyColdy    1,720 posts
    Elusive Image scratched
  • said:

    Not sure... take the quaddie for instance, quite often in Singapore (and i'm letting everyone in on a pure goldmine here) the dividend is much more than the total in the pool (presumably because the winner/s have less then 1 unit).

    http://www.tab.com.au/Racing/Information/Results/DisplayDetailedView.aspx?State=1&MeetingCode=L&RacingCode=R&FromDate=2012-04-08T00:00:00&RaceNumber=12

    Different subject, but anyone who puts in even a little effort can get quaddies in Singapore that regularly pay 5 - 10 times what an all up of the same horses would pay.

    quite true

    I got this one - http://www.ozbet.com.au/UI/RaceResultUI/RaceResultPage.aspx?fixtureId=ARX&fixtureDate=13112011&contestNumber=12
  • RodentRodent    7,446 posts
    said:


    it's actually an interesting subject.
    if you have a .5 on something and you are the only winner you get the pool.
    how can that be if it's not a full unit?

    My biggest win was a quartet I got for a 50c unit and I got the pool. It was 2002 and the winner paid $7, 2nd paid $16.50 place, 3rd paid $11.80 the place and 4th had an SP of 33-1. There were 15 runners and the first 3 faves finished out of the top 4. The divi was 183k of which I got 91.5k. The thing is, if the pool had been 500k, I still reckon I'd have got the whole pool!
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