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Nominations released for feature staying races in Perth

West Australian Racing

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  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    8,016 posts
    RIP Staying Races in WA, that is rubbish. If Bob's horses stay sound, and they are ridden well, they will walk it in.
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  • dungydungy    9,278 posts
    Ranger will go to the paddock after the Cox stakes and for mine Lords Ransom is Peters best chance ,his knock out horse on the up is racing today Forever Special bred to stay all day needs to qualify ,Battle Emblems run in the KT was very good he was solid ,Tranquility went ok ,Kincaple has to be a chance he was given no chance on Saturday stewards report is long on him ,New Spice going well,Saint Encosta ran well on Saturday,Senor De gama is flying ,Lopov the mail is strong on this S Miller is flying at present very open race this far out
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  • H-BOMBERH-BOMBER    10,567 posts
    Dancin' on the Wind could be a light weight chance. Would probably need to win Saturday in the 2200 to get the rating up. Then into the ATA 2 weeks later, could force its way into the field.

    Like it with Harvey on Saturday.
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  • dungydungy    9,278 posts
    said:

    Dancin' on the Wind could be a light weight chance. Would probably need to win Saturday in the 2200 to get the rating up. Then into the ATA 2 weeks later, could force its way into the field.

    Like it with Harvey on Saturday.

    Turner not on ???
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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,505 posts
    now's a chance...ask connections how much PH cost them...
    bet it would be the same as any other rider...
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  • H-BOMBERH-BOMBER    10,567 posts
    Turner must like Test the Angels better?
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  • dungydungy    9,278 posts
    said:

    Turner must like Test the Angels better?

    Im tipping he got the lemon and sass
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  • H-BOMBERH-BOMBER    10,567 posts
    haha yeah probably right there.....
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  • showtimeshowtime    86 posts
    how long before PLAYER copy that tabsportsbet perth cup and cox market... hurry up boys, copy and paste so we can have a bet
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  • goosegoose    1,638 posts
    Yes get on with it whats the hold up?
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  • dungydungy    9,278 posts
    I see D Dunn picked up the ride on Kincaple for the cup ,poor old T Turner got the the flick from Dancing on the Wind now Kincaple not a great week
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  • SLIPPERGOLDENSLIPPERGOLDEN    8,506 posts
    Lopov is an interesting contender. Danny O'Brien described Lopov as the toughest horse he had trained. Now it gets the Simon Miller touch.
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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,505 posts
    :wink:
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  • CookieKwanCookieKwan    64 posts
    If Lopov was any good they wouldn't...

    It just might be the one. Win at G2 over 2400 and then head off for a jumps career.
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  • showtimeshowtime    86 posts
    Kiwi runner Supremacy will be interesting .. dont know much about the horse... anyone?
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  • showtimeshowtime    86 posts
    interesting the late nom too by Moody with elusive king
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  • H-BOMBERH-BOMBER    10,567 posts
    said:

    Dancin' on the Wind could be a light weight chance. Would probably need to win Saturday in the 2200 to get the rating up. Then into the ATA 2 weeks later, could force its way into the field.

    Like it with Harvey on Saturday.

    Good win today, Pontiff, what a gun
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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,505 posts
    the horse is reasonably fresh and has perth cup written all over him.
    in my humble opinion.. :oops:
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  • paraleticparaletic    3,750 posts
    was $26 with player before todays win, now into $12. if Harvey stays with it, i will too, but i think $12 may be a bit short. I might shop around with the online bookies. Mark my word, this is the winner of the perth cup.
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  • dungydungy    9,278 posts
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    was $26 with player before todays win, now into $12. if Harvey stays with it, i will too, but i think $12 may be a bit short. I might shop around with the online bookies. Mark my word, this is the winner of the perth cup.

    Ponty wont be staying with it because it will get around 51/52kg and thats if it gets a run and no way the great one will ride at that weight anymore he will be riding Tranquility i would have thought ,Pike probably Lords Ransom,or Ranger if he goes there
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  • dungydungy    9,278 posts
    said:

    said:

    Turner must like Test the Angels better?

    Im tipping he got the lemon and sass
    Not a great day yesterday for TT got the flick of the last winner and Watermans Bay got nutted on the line and not riding Kincaple as well oh well this weeks another week but didnt Ponty add 3L to Dancing on the Wind what a ride
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  • TheSwooperTheSwooper    1,718 posts
    True but he rode a cracker on Roses and May. Mac It Is may as well stayed home.
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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    Full Peal reported to be going to the Summer Cup in Sydney on boxing Day as opposed to the Perth Cup.
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  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    8,016 posts
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    Full Peal reported to be going to the Summer Cup in Sydney on boxing Day as opposed to the Perth Cup.

    ism't this the horse that was supposed to be paying up a late entry fee of almost $10,000 to run in the Perth Cup ?

    must have been a slow news day huh ?
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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    GOLDEN RIVER DEVELOPMENTS-PERTH CUP
    $400,000 (GROUP 2) 2400M
    TO BE RUN SATURDAY DECEMBER 31, 2011

    A handicap of $424,000; first horse $264,000 including a gold cup valued at $12,000 for the owner, miniature gold cups each valued at $6,000 for the Trainer and Rider; second horse $80,000; third horse $36,000; fourth horse $16,000; fifth horse $10,000; horses sixth to eighth $6,000 each.

    PROVISIONAL ORDER OF ENTRY (at 13 December 2011)

    No Horse Age/Sex Trainer Weight Rating Note
    1 RANGER 5G GRANT WILLIAMS 58.0 (109)
    2 LORDS RANSOM 8G GRANT WILLIAMS 56.0 (105)
    3 BATTLE EMBLEM 8G GRANT WILLIAMS 53.0 (99)
    3 GOD HAS SPOKEN 5H NEVILLE PARNHAM 53.0 (99)
    3 KINCAPLE(NZ) 6G MARK B. REED 53.0 (99)
    6 MEGA STEEL 6G BRUCE MC CLUNE 52.5 (98)
    7 TRANQUILITY 5M GRANT WILLIAMS 52.0 (92) +4
    8 WHIPSAW 6G DEAN WHITE 52.0 (95)
    9 NEW SPICE 8G ELVA VAN MERWYK 52.0 (94) Exempt
    10 WESTERN JEWEL 5M GRANT WILLIAMS 52.0 (89) +4
    11 VERACIOUS 4G TREVOR ANDREWS 52.0 (92) Exempt
    12 BIG TED 6G IVAN HAGGERTY 52.0 (91)
    12 MANILA I SCREAM 6M ADAM DURRANT 52.0 (87) +4
    14 DOUBLE BARREL 8G ADAM DURRANT 52.0 (90)
    14 GUM NUT GURU 6G JUSTIN WARWICK 52.0 (90)
    14 SAINT ENCOSTA 5G JOHN P THOMPSON 52.0 (90)
    17 ELUSIVE KING 4G PETER MOODY 52.0 (88)
    18 INSURGENCY 7G GARRY DELANE 52.0 (87)
    18 RINGMEISTER 5G LINDSEY SMITH 52.0 (87)
    20 AMBERLYN 7M GRAEME HAMMARQUIST 52.0 (80) +4
    20 MISS TIPSY TOPSY 4M STAN BATES 52.0 (80) +4
    22 LOPOV(NZ) 4G SIMON A. MILLER 52.0 (82)
    22 SENHOR DA GAMA 5G SIMON A. MILLER 52.0 (82)
    24 SMART TWISTER 5G NEVILLE PARNHAM 52.0 (80)
    25 VOLCANIC CAUSEWAY 7G SONYA PRICE 52.0 (79)
    26 MOONLIGHT BAY 4M GRANT WILLIAMS 52.0 (74) +4
    26 VISCOUNT CAMERON 10G ANGELA SMITH 52.0 (78)
    28 MALAIKA 5M DONNA BAILLIE 52.0 (73) +4
    28 PINTADA PRINCE 4G WARREN RADFORD 52.0 (77)
    28 TEST THE ANGELS 5G JEREMY EASTHOPE 52.0 (77)
    31 DANCIN ON THE WIND 5G SHANE EDWARDS 52.0 (76)
    32 COME FLIRT WITH ME 4G DEBORAH MURPHY 52.0 (73)
    33 CAMPOBELLO 5G LOU & DION LUCIANI 52.0 (72)
    33 LADYSEA 4M TONY NOONAN 52.0 (68) +4
    33 SUPREMACY(NZ) 5G STEVEN PINFOLD 52.0 (72)
    36 GRAND APPROACH 4G FRANKIE MAYNARD 52.0 (71) 37 BIG JOSH 4G DANIEL MORTON 52.0 (70)
    37 LOVRE 6G MATT DAQUI 52.0 (70)
    39 FOREVER SPECIAL 4M GRANT WILLIAMS 52.0 (65) +4
    40 AITCHISON 7G NORM PASCOE 52.0 (68)
    41 CARA CARABINI 7G BEN PEARCE 52.0 (67)
    42 GALILETTO 4G DANIEL MORTON 52.0 (62)
    43 AMBERS KINGDOM 4G SHARON MILLER 52.0 (61)
    43 EMAHO 4G SHARON TAYLOR 52.0 (61)
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  • darkshinesdarkshines    2,837 posts
    So if (when) Ranger comes out, is the entire field raised two kilo or does the handicapper get another chance at spreading them out from 58 to 52???
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  • TheFunksterTheFunkster    3,840 posts
    After weights released i think it is just a min 57kg topweight so instead of a 97 rating will become a 95, which in effect doesn't effect any horses on the min, only those rated above the min will go up a kilo
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  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    8,016 posts
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    After weights released i think it is just a min 57kg topweight so instead of a 97 rating will become a 95, which in effect doesn't effect any horses on the min, only those rated above the min will go up a kilo

    So this is a Gr 2 huh ? Possibly only one horse rated above 100 accepting. This may not even survive as a Gr 3 at this rate and go straight to Listed.

    Well done to those who said that reducing the distance would improve the field. They should all hand their badges in and go and meddle in something else.
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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,505 posts
    I wonder if they'll nominate Gum Nut Guru for the Stawell Gift?? :lol:
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  • darkshinesdarkshines    2,837 posts
    said:

    After weights released i think it is just a min 57kg topweight so instead of a 97 rating will become a 95, which in effect doesn't effect any horses on the min, only those rated above the min will go up a kilo

    If that's correct then great. I recall this clause being brought in here due to 'creative' top weight nominations by team cerise and white. But I may be mistaken.

    Pretty sure this year all runners weights were raised for Caulfield Cup in similar situation. Races like that harder to manipulate obviously
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