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semipro, you have to commit murder to have a group 1 race taken off you. anywhere in the world (except for perth). not enough said!! there is an strong division of opinions that suggest there should be an ongoing discussion. kieren pleaded guilty to get the discount to his suspension, no other reason. chui didnt own up to shifting in because he didnt want the holiday, nor the opportunity to be on the outer in the fish bowl. if your 'pretty certain' luckygrey beats he's remarkable home, then can you be 'pretty certain' that ranger wouldnt have won the race if he wasnt interfered with? why not hand the million to ranger? are you 'pretty certain' that the interference opened the field up a touch to allow luckygrey to pick up and find the gaps? thats the problem semipro, the stewards yesterday were 'pretty certain'.... im 'pretty certain' that i will be moving mine to melbourne where they are about to announce another prizemoney increase.
What is certain in my mind is that in a Gr 1 550M from home, interference to take a race off the winner when the victim was 6 or 7 horses back in running is drawing a long bow.
When the NZ Trainer gets home, he may feel comfortable in expressing his opinion, but as a guest in Perth he most likely feels obliged to take his lumps.
Watching Rarefied sweat up behind the barriers for a lengthy delay, caused by the post race celebrations of Perth Racing so they could award trophies following the Stewards hearing, was a regretable decision. I would be genuinely surprised to see another horse from that stable race in Perth for many a year.
A)entirely responsible for the severity of the interference to Waratah's Secret which he clearly wasnt as there was pressure from his outside at the time
B)they also have to be able to conclusively prove that Luckygray was going to get past He's Remarkable.
They were able to prove neither and yet incredibly had the audacity to uphold the protest in Group 1 with millions riding on the outcome based upon an assumption supported by no facts whatsoever.
If Luckygray was going to rush past He's Remarkable as some claim his momentum would have carried him past He's Remarkable after the line yet at no stage did he get past He's Remarkable after the line.
They've opened up a massive can of worms that they won't be able to put the lid back on easily if at all.
Just wait until the first incident of a jockey dramatically slowing the field in front and causing a chain reaction back through the field causing severe interference to a heavily backed runner who then charges homes into second place, on paper a certainty btn by interference caused by the leader and winner so logically the rider will lodge a protest and then watch it be just as quickly dismissed for the usual reasons namely that it is put in the too hard basket.
Lets add another degree of difficulty to this scenario what happens if the rider on the leader call it horse A which now doesn't win the race crosses and slightly tightens the previous leader Horse B which over reacts badly causing a chain reaction which the horse racing in fifth position Horse C is flattened.
Horse C loses three or four lengths in the process, it picks itself up as does Horse B the previous leader and starts to work back into the race.
The prior leader Horse B in the straight gradually works past horse A that crossed a fraction too tightly and sets up a margin and holds the fast finishing and luckless second placed Horse C the one that was flattened by the winner overeacting badly, that's still referred or indirect interference that has materially affected the result and a number of horses chances in the race what on earth happens then geniuses.
This controversy won't disappear anytime soon and you can guarantee we will be reminded of it in every carnival for many years to come and it will go down in history as one of the most infamous bizarre and irresponsible protest decisions in Australian racing history.
fact waratah's secret over reacted to the interference,
fact there was pressure from the outside at the same time contributing to the severity of the interference.
fact there is no evidence that conclusively proves beyond any semblance of reasonable doubt that McEvoy was responsible for the severity of the incident.
So with the established facts available to them how on earth can they possibly uphold a protest for indirect or referred interference in a Group 1 without conclusive evidence of which they had none.
Mind you that is also without even arguing that they prove again beyond a reasonable doubt that Luckygray was definitely going to run past he's Remarkable and sadly this is nothing more than the latest in the long history of WA officials of shooting racing in this state in the foot.
Don't even get me started about the Railway trophy presentation holding up the running of the Group 1 Winterbottom when the horses are already behind the barrier.
if it shifted out it was only marginal at that point.
mcevoy shifted out miles later, and maybe he was confused, thinking this shifting out caused it when it didn't, as it had already happened.
so i would not take much notice of his guilty plea, and if he's off on holiday anyway.......
a fair question to ask would be why was there no good stewards footage?
Racing is not like a court room. This does not create a precedent, despite what the doomsayers are predicting.
Make no mistake the ramifications stemming from this grossly irresponsible decision are immense.
The stewards deemed
1. McEvoy was responsible for the interference.
2. Luckygray was affected by more than the winning margin.
3. Because of 1 and 2 protest upheld.
If you believe the stewards were wrong in either case that is your right but I cannot see how it creates a precedent.
They have upheld the result of a $1,000,000 Group 1 race with no factual basis whatsoever, that, in the opinion of any logical thinking person, is a grossly irresponsible decision.
As another poster quite logically pointed out there is no guarantee that Luckygray without the field being opened up is able to get through and obtain the same runs and no one can state with any degree of certainty let alone confidence that Ranger, by far the worst affected by the interference wouldn't have won the race.
So if we are making decisions based on assumptions with virtually no evidence to back them up by all rights they should have awarded the race to Ranger if that's your line of thought.
The extension of time had a bit to do with turnover and as the Railway was a massive turnover race then we had to allow punters to re-invest on the Winterbottom.
We have a habit of jumping to conclusions and blaming Perth Racing for everything.
Let's just sit back and soak up everything and examine the processes that took place and be constructive.
It appears to many have an axe to grind with Perth Racing, RWWA and WA in general.
I can guarantee Eastern States horses will still come here. The protest is irrelevent.
Too many bitter twisted individuals who simply want to find fault with every decision that is ever made in W.A.
Everything is opinion yes which may leave my comments somewhat vexed but the only major fault out of yesterday was that the horses contesting the Winterbottom should have stayed in the back parade ring for a lot longer.
Hope it doesn't happen...but have the connections of HR any grounds for a more extensive enquiry?
Does anybody know what the Melbourne press had to say about it??
The riders of Waratah's Secret & Ranger were not charged with interference were they? It was deemed He's Remarkable caused the trouble,albeit indirectly-at least in the case of Ranger & Luckygray. What more do you need to know? If Ranger runs 2nd to Waratah's Secret and protests, He's Remarkable would still be deemed at fault.
As for a leader slowing the pace in front, this usually occurs when a runner crosses from out wide shortly after the start-and is two lengths clear-usually more- when doing so. The buffer gives those following time to react. Horses are not cars with brakes-they slow gradually, not suddenly-except in the instance of breaking down. Slowing as quickly as you outline runs the risk of a leader being galloped on.
But one thing I need to point out Wes, is that Perth Racing made the request, the field was in place including the winning jockey, so seemingly he missed out on a speech in all of this. During the time of the protest hearing, betting was not suspended on the Winterbottom, if Perth Racing think that turnover was damaged because punters were awaiting a result prior to reinvesting, then this is wishful thinking.
Those who may appear to have an axe to grind, and I hope I number in their ranks, do so because Perth Racing yeild a sledgehammer in all manner of business when not in their interests.
So they must live and die by the sword.
he is the perfect example that victoria also has people/scribes that don't have a clue what they are talking about.
the new zealand press will be the ones to read i imagine