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  • PunterPunter    947 posts
    No he won't. He is committed to Gloucester Park.
  • careycarey    6,424 posts
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    He's been neglecting 2nd 3rd 4th for 20,000 calls across a whole career. True measure of character to take on board criticism. He must think everyone has NFI, cos he certaintly hasn't taken it on board, this knock has been around for decades

    i couldn't give a stuff if he stuffs up the placings, or anything else, EXCEPT.......just please stfu about how well they're travelling, or not, because 9 times out of 10 the opposite is about to happen.
    and 9 times out of 10 it costs me money, because of the moz that he has just put on.
    fair dinkum he has an extraordinary gift.
    who else in this world can stop them, just by using mere words that are the opposite of what is about to happen? :twisted: :evil: :roll:
  • cubescubes    689 posts
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    No he won't. He is committed to Gloucester Park.

    He will be out of there quicker than a rat down a drain pipe once Macca gives it away as Stewie did and Macca did.
  • kerrinkerrin    342 posts
    Apart from when i'm listening to a race on the radio, i don't take much notice of the caller. I check the colours of my selection, and I follow it through the race. Darren can call it whatever he wants, or say that it's traveling well, i make up my own mind how well it's traveling.
    Honestly, i don't care if he doesn't call 2nd or 3rd, it's not going to change the fact if you are going to have a collect or not.
    Personally, i would rather a lecture from my mother-in-law, than listen to Ryan Bell or Mark Shean. True, they are accurate, but their voices are so irritating. They spoil the spectacle. Darren, Greg and Paul Ambrosoli have a easy listening tone to listen to.
    But, to say that Darren puts a mocker on a selection of yours, you need to go to McDonald's, go to the straw dispenser, then clutch them.
  • slipatiptomeslipatiptome    3,351 posts
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    I don't mind Darren, he's a good caller. To listen to, i have him behind Greg Miles.
    Come on, if we were all perfect, we would never have a losing day on the punt.

    No, but we'd know what ran 3rd, 4th, 5th or 6th.
    Or we'd mingle with the population like Stuie use to to.
    Didn't he have an added incentive to do so?
  • careycarey    6,424 posts
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    Apart from when i'm listening to a race on the radio, i don't take much notice of the caller. I check the colours of my selection, and I follow it through the race. Darren can call it whatever he wants, or say that it's traveling well, i make up my own mind how well it's traveling.
    Honestly, i don't care if he doesn't call 2nd or 3rd, it's not going to change the fact if you are going to have a collect or not.
    Personally, i would rather a lecture from my mother-in-law, than listen to Ryan Bell or Mark Shean. True, they are accurate, but their voices are so irritating. They spoil the spectacle. Darren, Greg and Paul Ambrosoli have a easy listening tone to listen to.
    But, to say that Darren puts a mocker on a selection of yours, you need to go to McDonald's, go to the straw dispenser, then clutch them.


    oh fair dinkum kerrin, where's your sense of humour, the guy has no idea of how they are travelling, and i would be amazed if he does not get embarrassed because he is so bad at it.
    he's so bloody good at mozzing them, that if i have backed three in the race, he can stop 'em all!!

    mcdonalds is for fatties and those that don't care for their health, so would not be caught dead(or would be!) in one, and i would be very surprised if i ever needed to clutch at straws.
    maybe the park bench will beckon one day, but i've kept it at bay for about 35 years running so far.
  • DarrahDarrah    2,933 posts
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    Apart from when i'm listening to a race on the radio, i don't take much notice of the caller. I check the colours of my selection, and I follow it through the race. Darren can call it whatever he wants, or say that it's traveling well, i make up my own mind how well it's traveling.
    Honestly, i don't care if he doesn't call 2nd or 3rd, it's not going to change the fact if you are going to have a collect or not.
    Personally, i would rather a lecture from my mother-in-law, than listen to Ryan Bell or Mark Shean. True, they are accurate, but their voices are so irritating. They spoil the spectacle. Darren, Greg and Paul Ambrosoli have a easy listening tone to listen to.
    But, to say that Darren puts a mocker on a selection of yours, you need to go to McDonald's, go to the straw dispenser, then clutch them.

    Thats all well & good for us with Sky but what about the people without & ppl in back blocks, don't they deserve an accurate call.

    And BTW has'nt Stew served his time ? Build a bridge & move on.
  • dungydungy    9,278 posts
    Agree with KB about Mark Shean his voice just kills me he yells but all honesty with Darren Mac he can call his mate a legend at the end of the 2200m race which Darjan won but the main race of the day he cant get the winners name he calls it by the sire 2nd rate if i cant watch i dont bet as i never no were my horse is running in the run with this bloke ,poor old Wally Mitchell who is in NZ was listening via the phone thinking WTF !!!!
  • kerrinkerrin    342 posts
    Hi Darrah,
    You are 100% correct. It's their job to get it right, but all i'm saying is that Darren was very apologetic after the race. He even announced it over the loudspeaker. He would be feeling very dark on himself. But, compared to the problems in the world, it's only a race call. The totes pay out on 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th. It's that simple. The call is irrelevant in the big scheme of things.
    I can't stand the voice of Ryan Bell, so i turn the volume down. I heard he's a very nice guy, so it's nothing personal, it just grates on me.
    It's not man love, but i like listening to Darren, Max Simmonds and Greg Miles. I don't care if they get a photo wrong, it doesn't change the result.
    K.B
  • HotJulesHotJules    229 posts
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    Thats all well & good for us with Sky but what about the people without & ppl in back blocks, don't they deserve an accurate call.
    And BTW has'nt Stew served his time ? Build a bridge & move on.

    He did it last week with The Trojan. Calls it skipping 3 clear, goes through the field and next time we are back at the pointy end The Trojan is nowhere to be heard. Didn't even mention it again until they went over the line and he has it in the second half of the field when it finished 5th. He's not very accurate and I do rely on his calls and got nothing from that.
    Agree with your sentiments regards Stewie. Was absolute top notch.
  • dungydungy    9,278 posts
    There was only 1 Stuey Shenton he was a freak the best caller full stop anywere anytime he added that bit extra and was always spot on.
  • slipatiptomeslipatiptome    3,351 posts
    I agree Shenton was a very good caller. Interesting that Trevor Jenkins hasn't scored a mention.
  • VoodooVoodoo    1,361 posts
    Barry Thomas...........

    cheers
  • chocchoc    789 posts
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    I don't mind Darren, he's a good caller. To listen to, i have him behind Greg Miles.
    Come on, if we were all perfect, we would never have a losing day on the punt.

    No, but we'd know what ran 3rd, 4th, 5th or 6th.
    Or we'd mingle with the population like Stuie use to to.
    Greg is 10 lengths in front of this bloke.
    Ryan is the air apparant, put him in and he won't get it wrong (not trying to embarass you mate)
    Never made a mistake in your life Choc??

    You blokes make me laugh beacuse you just have to bag someone, the bloke messes up one call, and you are into him. Seems a trainer may have left blinkers off a horse yesterday, yet not one mention of a "trainer" making an error.

    Ryan good at dogs, ok at races IMO, guess Choc you didn't listen to some recent calls, had a few problems himself, but not ready for Ascot
    Yeah bud, I have made mistakes - plenty of them.
    The last one was when I threw away an each-way ticket the genius called over the line as 6th, and actually ran third...

    With Ryan's calls he provides a steady & accurate description all the way through in running, and has a greater accuracy rate of placings through the entire field in order after finishing IMO.
    And is getting better all the time - and isn't a lair who assigns his own nicknames to everyone.
  • chocchoc    789 posts
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    I don't mind Darren, he's a good caller. To listen to, i have him behind Greg Miles.
    Come on, if we were all perfect, we would never have a losing day on the punt.

    No, but we'd know what ran 3rd, 4th, 5th or 6th.
    Or we'd mingle with the population like Stuie use to to.
    Didn't he have an added incentive to do so?
    Ha, I didn't mean it that way...
  • cubescubes    689 posts
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    I don't mind Darren, he's a good caller. To listen to, i have him behind Greg Miles.
    Come on, if we were all perfect, we would never have a losing day on the punt.

    No, but we'd know what ran 3rd, 4th, 5th or 6th.
    Or we'd mingle with the population like Stuie use to to.
    Greg is 10 lengths in front of this bloke.
    Ryan is the air apparant, put him in and he won't get it wrong (not trying to embarass you mate)
    Never made a mistake in your life Choc??

    You blokes make me laugh beacuse you just have to bag someone, the bloke messes up one call, and you are into him. Seems a trainer may have left blinkers off a horse yesterday, yet not one mention of a "trainer" making an error.

    Ryan good at dogs, ok at races IMO, guess Choc you didn't listen to some recent calls, had a few problems himself, but not ready for Ascot
    Yeah bud, I have made mistakes - plenty of them.
    The last one was when I threw away an each-way ticket the genius called over the line as 6th, and actually ran third...

    With Ryan's calls he provides a steady & accurate description all the way through in running, and has a greater accuracy rate of placings through the entire field in order after finishing IMO.
    And is getting better all the time - and isn't a lair who assigns his own nicknames to everyone.
    You are not seriously putting Ryan in Maccas league.

    keen young bloke but please. excellent dog caller should be calling all WA dogs.

    he is years away if ever of being a city caller. has the most crating voice and corny phraes.

    Rbell will be next with the bloke in Singapore watching closely.

    After that probably the person to take it on hasnt started calling yet.
  • TheFunksterTheFunkster    3,840 posts
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    with the bloke in Singapore watching closely.

    Craig Evans
  • cubescubes    689 posts
    Being a West Aussie think he would like the job they dont seem to last too long up there before they come home.

    anyway cant see Macca giving it away for years,
  • slipatiptomeslipatiptome    3,351 posts
    Doesn't Macca own the business that provides the service to the TAB therefore all other callers are employed by Macca and not by the TAB?
  • CountrycallerCountrycaller    480 posts
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    Doesn't Macca own the business that provides the service to the TAB therefore all other callers are employed by Macca and not by the TAB?

    No
  • emjayememjayem    4 posts
    No he doesnt .
  • slipatiptomeslipatiptome    3,351 posts
    So what's the story then because it is different to my understanding of the situation unless things have changed.
  • emjayememjayem    4 posts
    RWWA employ all callers .
  • Leave the bloke alone, we all make mistakes, he's a great racecaller and we all f..k up form time to time!
  • dungydungy    9,278 posts
    Fantastic first post mistress keep em coming ??? :roll:
    Its a forum if people want to express there thoughts then let them if you dont like then dont read it !!!!
  • slipatiptomeslipatiptome    3,351 posts
    Obviously not your mistress Dungy.
  • ElitistElitist    366 posts
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    Leave the bloke alone, we all make mistakes, he's a great racecaller and we all f..k up form time to time!

    we would love to stop ripping into him, but he gives us soooo many opportunities
  • SuburbanPunkSuburbanPunk    199 posts
    Anyone in the public eye is cannon fodder if a situation arises that will bring ridicule upon an individual.

    As a mate, I can tell each and every one of you that Darren was devastated on Saturday night and even on Sunday he was remorseful of what occurred.

    He apologized on the day as any caller should do in that situation.

    Big Hold Up was the favourite in the feature and what occurred shouldn't have happened but it did.

    Boys and girls - build a bridge and get over it. Move on a new day is dawning.

    I know that everyone on this site is faultless in their individual fields of employment. Mistakes are never made. They probably are but because it isn't in the public eye they may go unnoticed. Sure in the public eye scrutiny is there but we do have a habit of eating our own.

    If I wanted to be a lowlife, I could spill the beans, so to speak, on some of the individuals on this site and situations that arose in their family life and what has transpired over time. It isn't part of racing but it involves the individuals. It would be very embarrassing for those individuals and it would create great fodder for the racing industry. Is it necessary - I don't think so.

    Why not create a kiss and tell post - I have some wicked truths that some may not want to hear but others will love.

    Does an owner who posts on this site hide the fact that he is having an affair with another man. Not quite but very similar innuendos can be raised and ultimately could very easily be proven.

    That won't happen for obvious reasons but in all honesty do we always need to kick the individual when he is down.

    "He can't call"

    "He got 3rd wrong"

    "He called my horse last when it ran second last"

    "He got the name wrong"

    "He talks too much"

    Sometimes it is like being back in the playground at primary school.

    Who do we pick on today. Lets attack Mark Reed, why not curse Adam Durrant, no let us put a spell on Clint Harvey. Lets get rid of David Shortte and replace him with Jesus Christ. The stewards aren't addressing the problems so we will get new ones headed up by Judge Judy.

    Have an opinion but be constructive and consider whether individuals need to be attacked. Some of the abovementioned have received bad posts but some of those posts have been constructive criticism which we all should be able to take.

    Most of us in this game are in it because we love it. We all make mistakes. It isn't fun and we don't go out of our way to make those mistakes but they are part and parcel of everyday existence.

    I make mistakes everyday that I do form on a race meeting. Sure I cop the criticism which is deserving but I'm having a go and isn't that Australian.

    I try to do my best just like most within this industry but as time goes by, reading some of the posts on this forum, I may as well get an AK 47 and shoot every bastard that cops a spray on here because they are no good.

    Yes I know, "if you don't like reading the posts don't get on this site".

    I do like reading most of the posts but lets be men about it. It is easy being a faceless name, being game and scathing in your posts but hiding behind a pseudonym.

    If I have upset anyone I apologize as I do not wish to create enemies, I love my job despite making mistakes. If you wish to have a go at me don't be afraid to send me a personal message including your real name.

    Have a good week on the punt.

    Wes Cameron
  • PieManPieMan    271 posts
    Not pissing in your pocket, Wes, but well said.
    K.B
  • careycarey    6,424 posts
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    Leave the bloke alone, we all make mistakes, he's a great racecaller and we all f..k up form time to time!

    he's got a great voice, but i would leave it at that.
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