Belmont Saturday 29 AugustWest Australian Racing

TheDiva

Race 4 - I think its worth reminding everyone -

TheFunkster

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didnt end up having to wait as long as expected della ?? :P :oops: :P

race 3 will be a cracker, wont be jumping off Simply Wicked after its last win and I reckon Jaw Dropper can measure up and put in another honest run from gate 2 it wont be wide or have to use up too much compared to its previous two starts

I can't see Jaw Dropper having to do anywhere near as much work as last time, which set the race up for Simply Wicked. Should win.

Best Bets:
R3: Jaw Dropper
R4: Shock Value
And if you don't mind taking odds-on, roll into;
R5: Hay list
R6: Tudor Lad

TheDiva

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said:

didnt end up having to wait as long as expected della ?? :P :oops: :P

race 3 will be a cracker, wont be jumping off Simply Wicked after its last win and I reckon Jaw Dropper can measure up and put in another honest run from gate 2 it wont be wide or have to use up too much compared to its previous two starts

I can't see Jaw Dropper having to do anywhere near as much work as last time, which set the race up for Simply Wicked. Should win.

Best Bets:
R3: Jaw Dropper
R4: Shock Value
And if you don't mind taking odds-on, roll into;
R5: Hay list
R6: Tudor Lad

watch the Jaw Dropper race again - tell me again who did the more work - it or Simply Wicked ?? - just to give you some help Simply Wicked is the horse in the pink who sits 3 wide the entire race

Famous1

Hay List and Tudor Lad should be standouts in tomorrow's quaddies!

agro58

simply mak gets the run of he race from 3 e/w
jaw dropper won't have to work to lead and has good ablity
shock value very nice trial well weighted box seat job
hay list just to good
tudor lad have good opinion of this horse just off the pace should be to strong.
stable mate cc will probably get back with top gun weight dif ?

pretty confident.

Pears

For a non-WA'ian, what kind of track condition are we looking at.. I see it read pretty firm 11am today, so if anything a drizzle of rain wouldn't hurt - any chance of it getting into the dead range though?

I've been a big Umaar fan, but geez Simply Mak was stiff last time. Dilemma-time :lol:

TheDiva

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For a non-WA'ian, what kind of track condition are we looking at.. I see it read pretty firm 11am today, so if anything a drizzle of rain wouldn't hurt - any chance of it getting into the dead range though?

I've been a big Umaar fan, but geez Simply Mak was stiff last time. Dilemma-time :lol:

Umaar is out already. We had a bit a rain earlier but I don't think it is enough to downgrade the track, at this stage.

Pears

Ah, well that makes it easier, now the only question is odds. Thanks champ, I didn't think there'd be enough in it to affect the track too much, but it's always good to get the news from someone closer to the action :P

rompz

I've taken the 17 on decrypter on player thinking it may be unders now :shock: :shock:

Pears

Rose Of Dante - at the odds I'm pretty keen on her. Awkward draw, but Chloe <3 lol. Open race though.
Simply Mak
Storm Inthe North

Hard to knock the favoured runners on the rest of the program, can't really see any super-shocks. Interesting to see the odds for the favourites though - they deserve to be favourite, gotta feeling at least a couple will come up what I consider to be unders for them though and I don't think they're unbeatable.
Might give Destino a sneaky chance at big odds.

TheFunkster

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said:

said:

didnt end up having to wait as long as expected della ?? :P :oops: :P

race 3 will be a cracker, wont be jumping off Simply Wicked after its last win and I reckon Jaw Dropper can measure up and put in another honest run from gate 2 it wont be wide or have to use up too much compared to its previous two starts

I can't see Jaw Dropper having to do anywhere near as much work as last time, which set the race up for Simply Wicked. Should win.

Best Bets:
R3: Jaw Dropper
R4: Shock Value
And if you don't mind taking odds-on, roll into;
R5: Hay list
R6: Tudor Lad

watch the Jaw Dropper race again - tell me again who did the more work - it or Simply Wicked ?? - just to give you some help Simply Wicked is the horse in the pink who sits 3 wide the entire race

Della, the "entire" race was only 1200m. 3 deep is not a bad place to be in a fast paced sprint. Have a look at the first furlong and see how much petrol bullet used up. Also have a look at the time JD ran first-up, when only half fit.
JD pulled up with an elevated heart rate after its last run as well, but hey your money, just trying to help :)

TheDiva

No worries The Funkster - we all have opinions

horses that lead and win over Belmont at 1200m - roughly 20%

horses that sit 3 deep in the breeze and win at Belmont 1200m - dont know but guessing less than 1%

Rodent

Anyone get a % of the quaddy? :lol:

Famous1

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Anyone get a % of the quaddy? :lol:

3rd leg killed me, 7 runners... Battle Emblem not one of them

3 stand outs, 7 horses in 3rd leg, 15 times over........
kinda wishing i went the field and just a collect

onya

Did not have a quaddie and last of bucks in wallet went on Battle Emblem. Was on the verge of going to SOUP KITCHEN. Great ride 3 wide Paddy Carb. Saved my hide. :D

Famous1

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Did not have a quaddie and last of bucks in wallet went on Battle Emblem. Was on the verge of going to SOUP KITCHEN. Great ride 3 wide Paddy Carb. Saved my hide. :D

Shouldn't have won! :(

onya

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Did not have a quaddie and last of bucks in wallet went on Battle Emblem. Was on the verge of going to SOUP KITCHEN. Great ride 3 wide Paddy Carb. Saved my hide. :D

Shouldn't have won! :(

Thought I heard the CALLER say COHORT was caught on the fence about mid race. When Chloe took off early I broke into a sweat. :roll:

TheDiva

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Anyone get a % of the quaddy? :lol:

Yes I had it. The first time I can remember getting a dividend. 83%. I stood out the first two legs, took the field in the 3rd, and then took 3 & 8 in the last. Really only wanted to take the three, but cut my dividend down.

Famous1

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said:

Anyone get a % of the quaddy? :lol:

Yes I had it. The first time I can remember getting a dividend. 83%. I stood out the first two legs, took the field in the 3rd, and then took 3 & 8 in the last. Really only wanted to take the three, but cut my dividend down.

I stood out 1st 2nd 4th leg :(
I wanted to do field, but battle emblem doesn't win often... both recent wins have killed my quaddies

LuckyLongshots

Hay List and Shock Value were very impressive, Hay List appears to have the goods to compete against the Group horses come summer!

A few interesting notes from the Steward's Report

DANBY WISKE (C. Harvey) – Returned having bled from both nostrils during running. Trainer Mr M. Dillon was advised that the gelding would now suffer the disabilities of ARR.53A.

SPITFIRE ACE (S. O’Donnell) – Trainer Mr D. McAuliffe advised that the gelding would now be spelled.

An Inquiry was opened into an altercation which occurred in the Jockeys’ Room following Race 1 between Jockeys’ L. Camilleri and S. McGruddy and was subsequently adjourned until Monday, 31 August 2009.

Race 7. Jockey P. Carbery (BATTLE EMBLEM) – Fine $500 ARR.137A(5) in that he used the whip on five additional consecutive occasions over the final 200m.

wotsup

What is the rule of whip use over last 200 metres. Whip must not go higher than shoulder and whip can be used FOUR times, but cannot be used on follwing stride. ???????????????????????????/

tony

Can only be used on 3 consecutive strides

TheDiva

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What is the rule of whip use over last 200 metres. Whip must not go higher than shoulder and whip can be used FOUR times, but cannot be used on follwing stride. ???????????????????????????/

If you go to the PR.com website, John Tapp is on video explaining the new whip rules

wotsup

yes it has been there a while. just asking from memory.

TheDiva

Good to see good quality horses winning again at Belmont. Some impressive wins amongst them.

Thanks to those people who voiced support today at the track after what has been a trying week.

SuburbanPunk

I don't think the new whip rules will be in vogue for too long.

I reckon within three months there will be radical changes.

They are and never were a feasible option.

We, as a racing industry have pandered to a vocal minority, who should all be lined up and whipped twenty times with a padded whip and then they will realize that hitting skin is completely different to hitting a hide.

A jockey shouldn't have to count how many times he hits a horse. That is stupid. Why all of a sudden do we instruct the jockeys that you can't try to win. That is not the case but it may as well be.

They (jockeys) should be able to use the whip like they have done in the past. The change has been drastic enough switching to the padded whip.

These so-called do-gooders should be pelted with tomatoes whilst in the stocks and then shipped far away, maybe Singapore, where there is no pussy footing and if they want to kick up about someone getting caned the Govt will in turn whip there arses.

The embarrassment of the Ganderton incident last weekend should say enough and teh authorities should admit they have approached this change in a manner which isn't equitable to its participants or its investors (the punter).

wotsup

" whip can be used four times before the 200 metres." IT MAKES NO difference to Pat CARBS case, but i saw in an early race (mid race if you will) a jockey seemingly hitting a horse (backhand and below shoulder level ) at least 20 times it would seem. forget AIR GUITARS, if he was not hitting the horse he would be a champion AIR DRUMMER. :lol:

TheDiva

What was the "Ganderton" incident ? I missed that.

dungy

boys got a bit punchy i see today after the first lol lol shooter and Lucas

tony

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What was the "Ganderton" incident ? I missed that.

Ganderton on Deer Valley won the last race in Sydney last weekend (beating Melito). He was suspended for overusen of the whip and said he did not think the horse would have won if he has not infringed.

The rules do not allow a protest