WA Horses - Success Outside of WA Since 1984West Australian Racing

PC

Precision said:

May have been mentioned already can't be bothered going through 5 pages. But Ellicorsam won the 2006 G1 Sangster at Morphetville and a listed race at Mornington.

Has been mentioned already.

TheFunkster

Ever Ready won the Gr 2 WA Guineas and the VATC Gr2 Chirnside Stakes

PC

The Funkster said:

Ever Ready won the Gr 2 WA Guineas and the VATC Gr2 Chirnside Stakes

Thanks for that mate. Much appreciated.

Tivers

I think you're far from finished ;)

PC

Tivers said:

I think you're far from finished ;)

Ok well honestly tell me how far away am I? I have 21 pages so far. I mean surely there wouldn't be that many horses left?

PC

Did a quick count and the stats so far are pretty good in my opinion and maybe even some on here may think the stats are amazing - I did a count of all the WA horses which I have so far who won Group/Listed races outside of WA and it's at 158 Group/Listed races outside WA.

So from 1984 (which was my starting point with this project) through to 2013 - a 29 year period, on average WA horses will win:

 

5.44 Group/Listed wins outside of WA -  PER YEAR

 

Now that figure may look small but to me that's a terrific effort considering that WA Racing is the poorer cousin in a way and the quality is not so good (please don't get offended anyone, you all know what I mean) however it clearly shows that WA can every now and then produce a horse good enough to do well outside of WA.

 

Anyway as time goes on that figure of 158 will probably change but so far it's looking good

 

PC

 

Manchild

What about Sertee he won a couple in QLD

Manchild

Sorry Surtee

Piston_Broke

Surtee won a Krambles Classic also I think it was, 

Not sure but did Restoration come from NZ and stop and race in QLD before it came to WA

Piston_Broke

Bob Taylor had a few

Barrosa Boy, Sky Filou and of course the great Summer Beau

raconteur

LOTHAWAY COUNTY - Darwin CUP LISTED 94 and deadheated for win 95

 

dungy

What about Doreimus  he was WA owned no differant to Cedarerg or Euthiopia not trained here never raced here  

dungy

Piston_Broke said:

Surtee won a Krambles Classic also I think it was, 

Not sure but did Restoration come from NZ and stop and race in QLD before it came to WA

Moral beaten in the Golden Slipper sat in the gates never jumped and came stroming home tragedy beat  George Daly  wasnt happy with Dazzler that day then went on and bolted in QLD next 2  starts was a very good 2 and 3 year old

PC

dungy said:

What about Doreimus  he was WA owned no differant to Cedarerg or Euthiopia not trained here never raced here  

Yes there is a difference. Cedarberg and Ethiopia were both born in WA. Doreimus was not. I will not be adding Doreimus to my list. Others can but not me.

raconteur

IMA REDMAN     1988 KYNETON CUP Listed - by Family of man trialled in WA for Ted martinovich

 

PC

Piston_Broke said:

Bob Taylor had a few

Barrosa Boy, Sky Filou and of course the great Summer Beau

Can I please have information in regards to this horse including its Group/Listed wins. If anyone can do this that would be appreciated as I can't find any info on Sky Filou.

PC

raconteur said:

IMA REDMAN     1988 KYNETON CUP Listed - by Family of man trialled in WA for Ted martinovich

 

can I please have info on this including Group/Listed wins, prizemoney etc and starts-first-2nd-3rd.

 

Thank you.

Piston_Broke

pretty sure Sky Filou won a Gadsen at Felmington

PC

Piston_Broke said:

pretty sure Sky Filou won a Gadsen at Felmington

I need all of his Group/Listed wins mate - for the purpose of the research that I'm doing.

thefalcon

pc, what is going to be the result of all this research?

scenic11

Golden delicious 2001 Mvrc sports concept trophy Listed

Valentine Miss 2010 MRC HowNow Stakes G3

Sky Filou 1987 VRC Gadsden Stakes G1

Congressman 1988 vATC Herbert Power Hcp G2
1988 VATC Moondah Plate Listed

Moss Kingdom 1984 Sajc Adelaide Cup G1
1984 Sajc West End Stakes G3

PC

the falcon said:

pc, what is going to be the result of all this research?

I have said before that I will post my findings on here. Look back through this thread please and see my dialogue. All I need to do now is work out how to upload it on here. I may have to discuss this will Perth Turf Talk staff for some help.

 

Hope this answers your question?

PC

What were Sky Filou's other Group/Listed wins. Apart from his Gradsden success?

PC

scenic11 said:

Golden delicious 2001 Mvrc sports concept trophy Listed

Valentine Miss 2010 MRC HowNow Stakes G3

Sky Filou 1987 VRC Gadsden Stakes G1

Congressman 1988 vATC Herbert Power Hcp G2
1988 VATC Moondah Plate Listed

Moss Kingdom 1984 Sajc Adelaide Cup G1
1984 Sajc West End Stakes G3

Already have Golden Delicious. Thanks for Valentine Miss, I will add to the list. I had no idea Congressman was a WA horse??

 

I already have Moss Kingdom. Thanks for your help.

scenic11

CHANTECLAIR

1986 AJC Epsom Hcp G1
1986 VRC Ampol Stakes G1
1986 AJC Hobartville Stks G2

PC

scenic11 said:

CHANTECLAIR

1986 AJC Epsom Hcp G1
1986 VRC Ampol Stakes G1
1986 AJC Hobartville Stks G2

Already have that one. Thanks mate.

scenic11

Congressman was bred and raced in WA by Bob Peters, Ross Price trained him then he went to George Hanlon in Melbourne.
He nearly won the Kalgoorlie Cups treble, just got beaten in the Kal Cup ridden by JJ Miller.
He also ran second beaten a lip by 100-1 shot Imposera in the Caulfield Cup.
Congressman was one of the best sons of Ksar.

scenic11

Paris Heartbeat

2001 VATC Summoned Stakes L
2001 BATC Glenlogan Park Stakes L

PC

scenic11 said:

Congressman was bred and raced in WA by Bob Peters, Ross Price trained him then he went to George Hanlon in Melbourne.
He nearly won the Kalgoorlie Cups treble, just got beaten in the Kal Cup ridden by JJ Miller.
He also ran second beaten a lip by 100-1 shot Imposera in the Caulfield Cup.
Congressman was one of the best sons of Ksar.

Can I please have Congresssman's other Group/Listed wins please. I have his career record in terms of starts-1st-2nd-3rd as well as the prizemoney. I just need his other Group/Listed wins (if he did win more)