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use of furosemide/lasix in training

West Australian Racing
TheTenthTenorTheTenthTenor    58 posts
edited December 2012 West Australian Racing
Does anyone have any experience using lasix in training to prevent bleeding?
With all the evidence to show that it does not enhance a horses performance but greatly reduces the chance of a bleed will this ever be legal here for race day administration?
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  • TucoolTucool    174 posts
    No Hope
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  • ArloArlo    122 posts
    In the USA where Lasix is legal but must be declared if a horse starts using it, punters have a rule which says
    always back a horse first up when it starts on lasix.
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  • motivatedmotivated    334 posts
    I think it is considered as a masking agent for other drugs, so doubt they will legalise the use of it in Australia.....
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  • Paulo8Paulo8    253 posts
    My understanding is it is only legal in the US...and it is also about to be banned there as well. agree with Arlo, a newcomer on lasix is a good bet, as is a horse first time using it. It can help with large improvements to performance. I have no idea whether it has long term effects on a horses health.
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  • BrubakerBrubaker    219 posts
    Lasix is a duiretic. Commonly called "piss pills" when jockeys could still take them. Basically it just dehydrates the horse, therefore lowering blood pressure and in theory reduces lung bleeding.
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  • raconteurraconteur    610 posts
    Paulo8 "My understanding is it is only legal in the US..."

    I think you will find it is permissable in some other countries - several South American regions ( track times from Sth Am are meaningless), Greece, Canada ( conditional), The Phillipines ,
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  • coastalchillcoastalchill    126 posts
    Yes it is and while most of those countries can get hot,I don't believe they get as hot as us.I believe it is a diutretic as Bruebaker says but ultimately in our Ascot season that affect would ultimately lead to severe dehydration and heart failure.
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  • Paulo8Paulo8    253 posts
    raconteur said:

    Paulo8 "My understanding is it is only legal in the US..."

    I think you will find it is permissable in some other countries - several South American regions ( track times from Sth Am are meaningless), Greece, Canada ( conditional), The Phillipines ,

    Thank you, can you tell me why Sth American track times are meaningless please? Cos of the use of lasix or another reason? Cheers.
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  • raconteurraconteur    610 posts
    Track times are meaningless in South America (well ARG, BRZ, CHI, VEN & URU at least) due to them taking a time from a point in advance of the start. it is somewhere around 20m ( give or take 20m) - the theory is that it is the true/total speed that the horsetakes to cover the 'distance' but of course over time it has seen the start effected from the true distance marker, yet the timing is still taken from in advance. Have a look at some ARG and BRZ times for sprints and you will see that even moderate horses are running ridiculous times.
    My reference to times does not relate to lasix at all - it was merely a byline - sorry for interupting your thread.
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  • raconteurraconteur    610 posts
    PS. actually the use of lasix is not yet banned in USA racing - it is only destined to be banned in Kentucky for 2 yo from 2014/ for 3yo from 2015 and for all others in or by 2016. No other state has accepted this policy albeit that Kentucky did adopt the lasix free policy for the Breeders' Cup Juvenile this year ( well last year - now ) :-t -
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